The labour Leader thread...

muon said:
Will they win back any Scottish seats? I doubt it.
Click to expand...

Not with a party leader who is from London - no chance.

awaybreaktoday said:
UKIP are finished...... their only one real policy is a policy of the leader of the second biggest party in the UK.
Click to expand...

Corbyn is the worst possible outcome for the Greens, they're finished as well - that's just handed 1.2 million votes to Labour.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
At least now the electorate will see a difference in the parties, rather than the Tory and Tory light nonsense we have had for some time.
People writing Corbyn off, but a lot of people are going to be very fed up with 4 years of unfettered Tory austerity...
I hope he goes after Blair, that would be rather amusing.
 
MichaelAwkward said:
Debatable. Nobody has a crystal ball.

It also depends what you mean by economy. Best for the neoliberal western economy that relies on debt to create growth? Probably. Great job. Best for a restructuring of the economy for the new low-growth future? Doubt it.
Click to expand...

Well to be honest what i mean is that right now out of all the parties i think the tories at least have the most qualified chimps running things... best of a bad bunch?

We need to be selfish and look after our own first and foremost, when and if we get to a point where we have cash to spare then by all means help out other countries but for now look after things close to home. Just as most of us do in our own lives.
 
AtreuS said:
We need to be selfish and look after our own first and foremost, when and if we get to a point where we have cash to spare then by all means help out other countries but for now look after things close to home. Just as most of us do in our own lives.
Click to expand...

If you expect national policy to follow in the same vein as household financial decisions, then I think you're going to be sorely disappointed by future governments. They haven't supported and enabled the past 50 years of globalisation for nothing. It's impossible to just look after things close to home now and has been for decades.
 
Uther said:
At least now the electorate will see a difference in the parties, rather than the Tory and Tory light nonsense we have had for some time.
People writing Corbyn off, but a lot of people are going to be very fed up with 4 years of unfettered Tory austerity...
Click to expand...

I think realistically, the economy has returned to normal growth trends and wages have started rising again. By 2020 if the economy has continued along these trends then Corbyn has no chance.

Conservative policies may have made the last 5 years harder on a lot of people than it should have been, but it'll all be in the past.
 
COs1lugWwAAhMdq.jpg
 
AtreuS said:
We need to be selfish and look after our own first and foremost, when and if we get to a point where we have cash to spare then by all means help out other countries but for now look after things close to home. Just as most of us do in our own lives.
Click to expand...

Which would be fine, if we were looking after are own but we're not. Unless by our own you mean the super wealthy. If we truly looked after our own we wouldn't need food banks.

We also don't live in isolation. What happens to other people in other places affects us, whether we like it or not. The only choice we have is how we shape and respond to the impact others have on us.
 
Corbyn is extreme far left. He is the most communist leader of labour in my life time and possibly of all time. there was a comment in the evening standard about how we have some of the most extreme leaders in the us and Europe at the moment, more extreme than we have ever had in the past. So will be interesting to see how it plays out. I just don't like Corbyn utter disrespect for capitalism and people right to choose. He would happily force his views on to everyone in the country even if it had bad results.
 
Aldav said:
But there's some historical evidence supporting that view. When was the last time the UK elected a hard left government? Other than the New Labour so despised by the left, when was the last time Labour were elected to serve two, never mind three, successive full terms?
Click to expand...

A dog-in-a-frock could have won in 1997. Blair lucked into government against an opposition that was wildly self-destructing. Thus the extent to which Blair's electoral success is down to New Labour is overstated.

Unless the country has lurched significantly to the left, there's reason to justify why just about every leading PLP figure over the few decades thinks, and publicly says, this will be a disaster for Labour. Only time will tell if they're right.
Click to expand...

There is, yes. But politics is ultimately about having and winning arguments there is simply no value in having a Left wing party which is not willingly to have a left wing approach to economics.
 
I could never vote for someone who doesn't seem to understand why its necessary to kill members of a terrorist organisation.

He has no spine when it comes to foreign politics, hes pretty much a lite version of george galloway.
 
Johno please? said:
I could never vote for someone who doesn't seem to understand why its necessary to kill members of a terrorist organisation.

He has no spine when it comes to foreign politics, hes pretty much a lite version of george galloway.
Click to expand...

We've been killing terrorists for 14 years in the Middle East, and it doesn't seem to be working.
 
phonemonkey said:
You sound like a pleasant chap. We shouldn't be rescuing people from drowning? Offering help to those fleeing war?

Are you even human?
Click to expand...

To sum up that other thread... not everybody is a refugee. Whilst there are some genuine refugees escaping conflict, even the BBC has acknowledged we now face a wave of immigrants coming here for a bigger pay-cheque.

When some of these economic migrants, or opportunists, do in fact drown... should we really need to feel responsible?

The thread was roughly divided into two camps:

1) The EU's wealth should be distributed to everyone in the world
2) Let's save lives but keep illegal economic migrants out, thanks.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom