Why is the overall tone of GD so right wing?

[spoffle]

This is the thing that concerns me. People willing to be spoon fed and told what their opinions should be.

This is my issue, and why I said there's a correlation between such views and a lack of intelligence. I'm not making the argument that low intelligence = racism, but that people who are thick, allow others to tell them what their own opinions are.

 

[gandhi]

This forum is definitely more right-wing than the general population, possibly because it's 99.9% male.

Possibly, but that's engendering politics and you are therfore insinuating that all people with lefty views are female?

 

[kitch9]

You seem to be under the impression I'm saying they're not opinions.

Informed opinions are valid opinions.

I'm not sure what you're saying about the lefts and how it applies to me though. That sort of behavior is common with people who think they are intelligence, but their intelligence is borrowed.

You debate using generalisations, ie implying people who are right minded can't spell for instance.

Not exactly "informed."

Try to drop the sanctimonious thing.

 

[phonemonkey]

Could one explain how anyone can successfully integrate into a society without the means to at least communicate?

Is Britishness an unchanging and static concept? I don't think it is.

Those massive Norman castles were French in design. The Vikings influence can still be found in large parts of the North. The Romans too influences 'British' culture, though Britain as we know it didn't exist then.

 

[spoffle]

You debate using generalisations, ie implying people who are right minded can't spell for instance.

Not exactly "informed."

Try to drop the sanctimonious thing.

Can you point out where I implied that specifically, do you understand what a correlation is, and what it doesn't equal? Try and read what I actually type, and actually respond to that instead of talking out of your arse. Because it seems you're having a hard time responding to things I've directly said.

 

[spoffle]

Is Britishness an unchanging and static concept? I don't think it is.

Those massive Norman castles were French in design. The Vikings influence can still be found in large parts of the North. The Romans too influences 'British' culture, though Britain as we know it didn't exist then.

The actual issue here is the assumption that a person isn't speaking English because they can't, and they're refusing to "integrate" by speaking their native language.

This is usually a train of though that the resident racists use.

 

[FoxEye]

The actual issue here is the assumption that a person isn't speaking English because they can't, and they're refusing to "integrate" by speaking their native language.

This is usually a train of though that the resident racists use.

Please tell us who the resident racists are? Go on. Double dare you

You've accused just about everyone of being racist, I do believe.

 

[spoffle]

You've accused just about everyone of being racist, I do believe.

Do you believe? When did I do this?

 

[dowie]

Just look at how many Daily Mail links are posted every single day, without fail, on here. Y'know, that well known bastion of fair, balanced reporting. I think that says enough about the political demographics of this forum than anything else.

 

[kitch9]

Is Britishness an unchanging and static concept? I don't think it is.

Those massive Norman castles were French in design. The Vikings influence can still be found in large parts of the North. The Romans too influences 'British' culture, though Britain as we know it didn't exist then.

You could say similar things for most countries. A lot can happen in a few thousand years.

I have a problem with the current immigration system because we are actively and blatantly discriminating against people who aren't from our continent. It annoys me that Chinese, Indian, etc students who study here and are educated with the highest honours are kicked out of the country whilst we have to accept migrants from Europe no questions asked regardless of their skill set or lack of.

Then I get woolley headed lefties telling me it is me who is racist because I don't think the current immigration system is right and we should have more of the same.

 

[spoffle]

Is that the best answer you could come up with?

what the hell does that even mean?

I'm asking you a question, can't you answer a simple question?

 

[Boycey0211]

Then I get woolley headed lefties telling me it is me who is racist because I don't think the current immigration system is right.

Annnnnd the thread descends into name calling, politcal stereotyping and who can shout the loudest. Question answered OP.

 

[Pawnless Endgame]

I'm genuinely sorry you've been dealt a bad hand. What was the issue with employers/religion?

I had a couple of managers attempt the conversion card on me, repeatedly. They put me down due to being a non-believer. Then they assumed that I was a druggy because I clubbing, and that I'm a paedophile because I like Japanese manga. Should have kept it professional and called the police if they were genuinely concerned imo. When it came to promotions, other believers leap-frogged me. Also, the grievance I filed got brushed under the carpet.

At the end of the day, it's how strict (fundamentalist) they are or how liberal they are. I don't have issues with the liberal end because they keep it to themselves for the main part.

 

[MrMoonX]

Theres also the secret mods forum which is full of race hate etc.

Also posters here are all children of Thatcher and want to get rich quick and damn everyone else, sell your mother kind of attitude

 

[gandhi]

I've asked this question before and an older member told me the forum possibly had connections to far right groups which probably attracted quite a few members with extreme views, some of whome are still active. Once the ring wing views core was created, it continued to exist even after improvals in moderation, change of ownership etc.

Orly. I was not aware of this!

This forum has a fair reflection of our current society, although the farther away from centre a member's views are the more they think this place is different.

You may well be correct and my opinion could very well be skewed from the threads I choose to read. However, I have no way of quantifying this. Do you?

Well, the previous owner of OcUK was openly racist and there were a number of openly racist members on the forums who were active supporters and contributors to places like Storm Front (a white supremacist forum).

Could someone validate or deny this claim please? I'd be interested to know!

PR would have still given you a Tory government, one with a strong ukip factor and a much smaller SNP section

I haven't looked deeply enough into the the % figure for each and every seat in the election to deny or agree with this claim? Have you? Can you link me to the source please? I'd be very interested to check up on this fact.

All in all I think it just shows how impressionable the general public really is by purpose of the media.

People post clearly doctored images/links/articles and purport them to be fact in probably most threads on here regardless of the topic.

Whatever is in the journalists eye this week will generally have the spin put on it and you can see peoples views either slide left or right depending on whatever the papers have said.

Also, a trend thats increasing which I ******* despise is quoting youtube vids as solid evidence for an argument, it makes no sense and is in most cases completely one sided if you take only that video into account, it isnt 'reporting', its winding people up.

End of the day people are speaking up because they feel threatened by something. Luckily 99% of people never do anything about that despite the stuff that gets bandied about on here.

Yep. Living in a Murdochrasy sucks.

 

[DirtyJester]

If you're not careful someone's going to ask you to back up that statement about the amount of daily DM links, then you're in trouble.

I see what you did there...

 

[Puzzled]

The actual issue here is the assumption that a person isn't speaking English because they can't, and they're refusing to "integrate" by speaking their native language.

This is usually a train of though that the resident racists use.

People like you that pull the racist card on every issue do a real disservice to what true racism is.

Anyway... I always thought centre right was the majority view in this country. Perhaps that comes from growing uo in a relatively wealthy part of the country but most people seem to get over the far left views in their student days.

 

[Zethor]

Please tell us who the resident racists are? Go. Double dare you

You've accused just about everyone of being racist, I do believe.

Racism is a bit tricky to spot, people hide it well nowadays as it's not longer accepted. Xenophobia, on the other hand.. Many of the 'regulars' in the migrant thread as well as quite a few one-liner-john's are blantantly xenophobic.

 

[spoffle]

Theres also the secret mods forum which is full of race hate etc.

I always wanted to find that leaked archive full of damning stuff.

Could someone validate or deny this claim please? I'd be interested to know!

It's 100% true, I'm not talking based on rumours. I've seen the sort of things I mentioned. I only experienced a small fraction of it. Overclockers were on my no-buy list until the previous owner sold up.

 

[spoffle]

People like you that pull the racist card on every issue do a real disservice to what true racism is.

Anyway... I always thought centre right was the majority view in this country. Perhaps that comes from growing uo in a relatively wealthy part of the country but most people seem to get over the far left views in their student days.

So, I talk about racsists and it means I'm pulling the racist card on every issue? Can you demonstrate how you've come to this conclusion? Please show your working.