Why can people not drive on the motorway correctly?

On a similar note, why do people on Dual carriageways/A roads (specifically the A1 in this example) forget to move back over to the left hand lane?

I've seen literally 1 Mile+ of bumper to bumper cars (going ~55mph) in the right hand lane when there is a perfectly good lane to use just the left of them.....which is empty.

Why can't people lane? It's not difficult????
 
Rroff said:
Had no end of grief from someone once for this, what they couldn't see from their angle was the motorcycle positioned in the 3rd lane overtaking me.

If it bothers you that much maybe drive a little more pro-actively so you can position yourself in the middle lane in good time as I had done rather than the moment you catch up with the slow moving lorry.
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The moment i catch up? I start the event at least 10 seconds before i needed to move over. Thats a life time for others to react.
 
swain90 said:
On a similar note, why do people on Dual carriageways/A roads (specifically the A1 in this example) forget to move back over to the left hand lane?

I've seen literally 1 Mile+ of bumper to bumper cars (going ~55mph) in the right hand lane when there is a perfectly good lane to use just the left of them.....which is empty.

Why can't people lane? It's not difficult????
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Unfortunately it's the sheep mentality.

The moment you move left and you cannot technically undertake, the car behind you will over take you in the 'queue', then you're checked in, so unless the first car that's holding up the right lane starts doing it, everyone else is just aggroing till it happens.

On the way back on the A1 Northbound, a car purposely take the right lane all the way for around 5 junction at 70mph, not really over taking any left cars, as if him doing the 'correct speed' means he is better than anyone else overtaking him.

A handful of people undertook him, 1 was rather dangerously as he decided to speed up. Total muppet.

My pet hate to Motorway driving is slip-road entry into Motorway.

You speed up and match motorway speed to enter, but majority of drivers that are in front of me heading in always do 40mph till they are near the end before they speed up.

NO you dumbo! Unless your car can jump from 40-70mph within a split second, match your speed of entry whilst heading up the slip road!!! :mad::mad::mad:

/chill-pill-needed.
 
Mr Jones said:
Unfortunately it's the sheep mentality.

The moment you move left and you cannot technically undertake, the car behind you will over take you in the 'queue', then you're checked in, so unless the first car that's holding up the right lane starts doing it, everyone else is just aggroing till it happens.

On the way back on the A1 Northbound, a car purposely take the right lane all the way for around 5 junction at 70mph, not really over taking any left cars, as if him doing the 'correct speed' means he is better than anyone else overtaking him.

A handful of people undertook him, 1 was rather dangerously as he decided to speed up. Total muppet.

My pet hate to Motorway driving is slip-road entry into Motorway.

You speed up and match motorway speed to enter, but majority of drivers that are in front of me heading in always do 40mph till they are near the end before they speed up.

NO you dumbo! Unless your car can jump from 40-70mph within a split second, match your speed of entry whilst heading up the slip road!!! :mad::mad::mad:

/chill-pill-needed.
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On a Friday i go from Junction 3 all the way up to junction 42.

From where the A1(M) at Peterborough finishes and goes from 3/4 lanes back to 2, that's where my problems usually start.

I'm not one for sitting in queues so if there's a lorry in the left hand lane I'll over take and then move back left. I'm not prepared to sit in the right hand lane making the problem worse. If I end up undertaking people well then that happens.

Plus! I find it a lot less stressful driving in the left hand lane as I don't need to worry about the 30+ people in front of me all putting their brakes on, one after another.

IMO people who stay in the right hand lane are worse than people who undertake. There is literally no reason to stay in the right hand lane if the left hand lane is empty.
 
Rroff said:
If it bothers you that much maybe drive a little more pro-actively so you can position yourself in the middle lane in good time as I had done rather than the moment you catch up with the slow moving lorry.
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Double or triple the distance in front you look at and prep in plenty of time. I think a lot of people on the road could benefit from this.
 
I get very annoyed by truckers wanting to pull out who put their indicators on and believe that gives them right of way. It doesnt. At all.
 
Joe T said:
I get very annoyed by truckers wanting to pull out who put their indicators on and believe that gives them right of way. It doesnt. At all.
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It might not, but taking that kind of attitude towards it doesn't help any one, nor more importantly, the flow of traffic.

I always let them out/speed up if I'm alongside them.
 
BuToNz said:
Double or triple the distance in front you look at and prep in plenty of time. I think a lot of people on the road could benefit from this.
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So much this. Far too many people leave their decision making to the last second and find themselves in situations as described by the OP.

The second you spot that slow moving HGV in front of you in lane 1 you can check the traffic approaching from behind you in L1 and L2 and make a decision there and then. That gives you plenty of time to plan your overtake based on how fast the car approaching you is going.

And expecting that car to move over when you start indicating is as arrogant as that driver not letting you out.
 
I sympathise with OP but I don't think you're right. I was always taught that you don't manoeuvre until you know it's safe. It's not for other people to accommodate you.

I was also taught that you should be able to anticipate situations like the one you encountered. If you saw the truck ahead of you you probably should have moved into the middle lane further in advance of when you attempted to, and if you wanted to overtake cars in the middle lane too, then you should have moved over to the right lane when safe.
 
Mr Jones said:
Unfortunately it's the sheep mentality.


My pet hate to Motorway driving is slip-road entry into Motorway.

You speed up and match motorway speed to enter, but majority of drivers that are in front of me heading in always do 40mph till they are near the end before they speed up.

NO you dumbo! Unless your car can jump from 40-70mph within a split second, match your speed of entry whilst heading up the slip road!!! :mad::mad::mad:

/chill-pill-needed.
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Now imagine your driving a 44 tonner behind those muppets you describe whilst trying to merge from a slip road.

If my fully freighted 44 tonner has out accelerated their tin can then something is seriously wrong !

Of course 30 seconds after they've merged they immediately join Lane 2.
Meanwhile I'm/we are left trying to come to an amicable arrangement with the stream of other 44 tonners on the main carriageway !!

I mentioned this problem a couple of years ago on here and was told by someone on here to back off and make more of a gap on the slip road.

They failed to grasp that speed lost on the soon to be ending slip road CANNOT be gained back on the slip road unless it's a downhill run, which it rarely is !

Now add the new *KPi complexities we are now under and the whole shebang becomes farcical






*Insurance companies (I kid you not) are now demanding we drive the way THEY want us to drive and give rebates to our companies if they keep us "in the green" in the Kpi League tables they have introduced.

That means

A: We are NOT to use full throttle. Throttle must not exceed 95% of travel.
B: We must NOT decelerate quicker than 20mph in 4 seconds
C: Cruise Controls on vehicles now "Give up" when 97% up a hill and try and use kinetics to "carry you over" the brow ! Can you imagine what happens to road speed when that happens and the inevitable chaos behind !
D: MPG must always be above 8 mpg regardless of the weather / Terrain (hills) or weight carried and stop / start.
E: UK Dual Carriageway speed limit for trucks is 60 mph but we are speed restricted to 56mph. If we exceed 56mph for more than 1 minute we are given an overspeed infringement even though we haven't broken the law. The new Insurance Kpi is even more drastic.

On certain driver friendly trucks you are given a "Pre-Warning" that your speed has exceed 56mph for longer than 1 minute and you are given 13 seconds to get the speed down to 55mph to reset the time counter. If you ignore it then it WILL Flag up the overspeed infringement both on the head unit and your driver card
~(Scanias & DAFs just go "DING..HAHA YOU'RE NICKED")

The new kpi gives us a .5 (½ mph) leeway before logging it as an infringement. To put that in perspective our digital speedo's increment by 1 mph so you won't even know you're exceeding the limit !

All very well in fantasy land isn't it .. Bit like manufacturers fuel figures !!

They are "other issues" too but I can't think of them at the minute

I used to think "Would I start my career in these days" and up to recently it would've been YES.

Not anymore.
 
swain90 said:
On a similar note, why do people on Dual carriageways/A roads (specifically the A1 in this example) forget to move back over to the left hand lane?

I've seen literally 1 Mile+ of bumper to bumper cars (going ~55mph) in the right hand lane when there is a perfectly good lane to use just the left of them.....which is empty.

Why can't people lane? It's not difficult????
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I love the A1 for that :confused: The A19 north is also like this every single day at rush hour from Teesside to Sunderland. Basically a line of Chelsea tractors, Audis and FIAT 500s blocking the entire route, but at least the Audis would do 95mph along it if the others were not blocking.
 
Laziness and idiocy.

Frankly if i'm approaching a vehicle on the inside lane and i can see a large volume of traffic approaching but not quite caught up, i will move into the middle lane early. Even if it potentially means someone could speed down the inside and cut in front. I've been caught out hundreds of times in the same situation as the OP where you then get stuck in the inside lane because drivers refuse to drive with common sense.
 
cheesyboy said:
Why would you only do it if you're feeling considerate? Surely, by default, you'd just do it - you'd only NOT do it if you're feeling like being a arse
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In the main I would agree, but conversely why should you move out of your lane because someone in lane 1 has poor forward observation skills and/or is too impatient to let you pass before moving into lane 2?

An indicator is not right of way and in many instances drivers wait till they are up the chuff of an HGV before even flicking their indicator on (if they indicate at all).

You could argue that by letting them in you further perpetuate poor driving.
 
Outcast said:
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That sounds terrible.

Now i'm more concerned that lorry drivers will be paying more attention to the KPI requirements than actually driving safely on the road.

I assume things like having to break suddenly because some idiot has decided to take an exit very late and swerves across you (seen that many times) would not be counted?
 
Joining the M27 leaving Lyndhurst results in a similar thing happening, It's 2 filter lanes off the slip ramp joining the motorway which is 3-4 lanes as the left 2 lanes after the ramp go toward another exit. Plenty of room for traffic in the left lane to move right as traffic on the slip is merging but no, almost nobody moves over. It has come to the point where I just floor it and don't even need to bother with having to wait for anyone.

Sod them I say and leave them way behind.
 
DominicStar said:
I love the A1 for that :confused: The A19 north is also like this every single day at rush hour from Teesside to Sunderland. Basically a line of Chelsea tractors, Audis and FIAT 500s blocking the entire route, but at least the Audis would do 95mph along it if the others were not blocking.
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I've started coming off at at Junction 34, head towards the M18, get on the M18, M62 then rejoin the A1 at Junction 41 just because people don't know how to lane.

I'd rather do the extra 23 mile detour and have my piece and quiet than sit on the A1.
 
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