How to get a Dealer to drop their price?

I think he's more confused as am I that they are taking so much No Claims away, doesn't sound right to me even if I'm no insurance expert.
 
Grrrrrrr!
Just called My insurance co to tell them i sold my clio.

They informed me i would need to find a replacement and insure it with them otherwise i would loose my 5Years Named Drivers No claims and revert to 2 years no claims only. which would see an increase of wait for it..... £570 on my premium!
I have 14 days from today....

That's only on their systems.

I'd be surprised if a competitor would also charge you £570 more.

Sounds like they're using it as a rip-off opportunity to me.
 
That's only on their systems.

I'd be surprised if a competitor would also charge you £570 more.

Sounds like they're using it as a rip-off opportunity to me.

If i move Insurance Co i will loose the Named Driver No claims anyway.
They offer more of a discount if i stay and allow me to use the no claims ad added no claims. So instead of 2 i have 7. when every other insurance co see it as just 2.
 
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You said 'LUX Car Select' in the post I read.

If its LEX selling ex fleet cars then they probably work on a price you see is price you pay model anyway.

Ah sorry that was a typo before.

Yea it seems they do, But a Models mould can be broken.

I have various reports printed off that state the Forcourt price is £8000 and Trade £6200. So I'm hoping to get them to lower theirs slightly, or possibly Service it early if its in need this year.
 
Ah sorry that was a typo before.

Yea it seems they do, But a Models mould can be broken.

I have various reports printed off that state the Forcourt price is £8000 and Trade £6200. So I'm hoping to get them to lower theirs slightly, or possibly Service it early if its in need this year.

I honestly don't want to come across as condescending or otherwise seem like I'm trying to wind you up, but the more you write the more naive you sound.

They couldn't care less what a few websites tell you the price should be, honestly. This would have been a way to set a bar for yourself r.e what price you wanted to try and get to - but this went out the window as soon as you handed over any cash.

As already stated they will likely be working on a model similar to the car supermarkets, where if you want the car you'll be paying the asking price (or very, very close to it)
 
You have a budget of £8000 and you look at cars over this budget in the hope that the seller will reduce the price to come into your budget? :confused:

Given that there is very little margin left in the "everyday car" market (Fords, Vauxhalls, Mazda etc), people's expectations are unrealistic. People want the dealer to "come into the 21st Century" in the way they treat customers (quite rightly) yet treat the dealers as if they are still buying cars in the 1990's :rolleyes:
 
Since when are there queues to test drive diesel hatchbacks?

I'd assume its the order of vehicles being detailed/prepped/transported in this case. Still probably a little bit of a con as the vehicle could be next in line anyhow or it could be at the end of the line but its a deposit to show you are serious enough they will "expedite" turning it around.
 
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You have a budget of £8000 and you look at cars over this budget in the hope that the seller will reduce the price to come into your budget? :confused:

Given that there is very little margin left in the "everyday car" market (Fords, Vauxhalls, Mazda etc), people's expectations are unrealistic. People want the dealer to "come into the 21st Century" in the way they treat customers (quite rightly) yet treat the dealers as if they are still buying cars in the 1990's :rolleyes:

I have regularly managed to get discounts of £500-£1000 on cars in the region of £6-10k so as a blanket statement that is a bit misguided. Trade price allows plenty of room for overhead, profit and then some negotiation margin to be built in by the seller before getting to a competitive selling price. £500 may or may not be a big ask for this car (doubt it would have happened given who it is), but regardless any real negotiating power has now gone.

There are a couple of exceptions to this, but they tend only to be post lease sell offs like this (which i can never understand as they'll then just punt the car to auction and get a significantly lower sum), car supermarkets and a handful of dealers who specialise in trying to get the best examples for the right price (Strastones type model)

I'd assume its the order of vehicles being detailed/prepped/transported in this case. Still probably a little bit of a con as the vehicle could be next in line anyhow or it could be at the end of the line but its a deposit to show you are serious enough they will "expedite" turning it around.

Possibly - could also be to do with post contract sign off and having time to mechanically / bodywork inspect I guess
 
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I'd assume its the order of vehicles being detailed/prepped/transported in this case. Still probably a little bit of a con as the vehicle could be next in line anyhow or it could be at the end of the line but its a deposit to show you are serious enough they will "expedite" turning it around.

Probably - but the correct response to that is "no worries, give me a call when it's ready and I'll pop down" and not TAKE MY MONEY!!

Granted if you know you definitely want to buy it and are happy with the asking price then fair enough, hand over a deposit - especially if you need it quickly. But if you're not sure and want money off then playing it cool is what's needed.

You have a budget of £8000 and you look at cars over this budget in the hope that the seller will reduce the price to come into your budget? :confused:

Given that there is very little margin left in the "everyday car" market (Fords, Vauxhalls, Mazda etc), people's expectations are unrealistic. People want the dealer to "come into the 21st Century" in the way they treat customers (quite rightly) yet treat the dealers as if they are still buying cars in the 1990's :rolleyes:

:rolleyes: I've never ever paid asking price for a car - main dealer, small indy or private sale.

There are certain things in life you expect to pay asking price for - corn flakes, JLS albums, that sort of thing. Other things you know there's negotiation involved - houses, cars... Maybe a boat? I don't know.

Anyway if you have 8k to spend and want the most for your money you absolutely should be looking at 8500 quid cars and aiming to spend less. If you want to look at 8k cars and pay asking price for ease then fine, but you're wasting cash. If you're not capable of holding a grown up negotiation then you'll pay more - it's nothing to do with being stuck in the past.

However; throwing cash at the dealer before you start does clearly weaken your negotiation position
 
If i move Insurance Co i will loose the Named Driver No claims anyway.
They offer more of a discount if i stay and allow me to use the no claims ad added no claims. So instead of 2 i have 7. when every other insurance co see it as just 2.

Perhaps, but there's no reason why your insurer with 7 years no claims has to be cheaper than another insurer with 2 years no claims.
 
What?
It says what it says.... If I don't like the car upon test drive or the cars condition doesn't meet my expectations I will get a refund...
Why can no one understand this?

It doesn't help that you said this in a previous post:
I'm going to go in, test drive it, inspect the car and if all is good simply say.. "I have 8k, that's payable today and If you accept I will take the car today"
the rest is up to them, if the sales guy refuses I will ask him to go ask his boss because at the end of the day it's the bosses decision. And I think they will accept.

if not I will get my deposit back there and then as promised and walk away

Is the deposit returned if you are not happy or is it also returned if you are happy with the car? Seems a strange deposit to me.
 
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It doesn't help that you said this in a previous post:


Is the deposit returned if you are not happy or is it also returned if you are happy with the car? Seems a strange deposit to me.

I was simply told it was refundable no matter what, if I don't like the car or simply change my mind after seeing it all prepared.
It was so dirty and had lots of imperfections that they said would be fixed before I see it Sunday. The "deposit" was to basically be the first to view it after it was Prepared.

It had these issues:
Three alloys curbed, needed all 4 to be refurbed to a high standard.
One Tyre needed to be replaced.
Paint work damage around rear left reflector.
Scuffs to rear bumper
2 carpark dings to passenger door

Its gone in to have the following done at their prep center:
Wheel Refurb
Tyre Replacement
Smart Repair to Paintwork
Dent Removal.

If ANY of the above is not done or done to a poor standard I will get my "deposit" back.

I do like the car, and from looking at the market the price is Just slightly over what i feel is right.
But if they simply refuse point blank to move on the price then i shall try and get them to throw in a second years warranty, or a Full service. Or better yet an AA Car Inspection. All things they can get far cheaper then me so less of a loss for them.
 
You seem so convinced that they're just going to hand it back because you ask them to, despite having absolutely no obligation to do so. Why are you so trusting of dealers, especially if you've been screwed over before?
 
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