Help with extension wiring for broadband please

rdb2012 · 16 Sep 2015 at 22:34

Hi all, my BT infinity has been activated today and been working great. I have connected my router on one of the extension sockets in my room(quite far from the master socket - internal wiring) and I received connection speed of 64mb down and 20mb up.

I then tried the master socket and the connection speed was 80mb down and 20 up straightaway. So obviously there is a problem with the extension wiring.

I was thinking of buying extension cable maybe around 25m and connecting that to the master socket. Will this likely to give me better connection than using the internal wiring as some of the wiring are quite old.

Many thanks,

thenewoc · 16 Sep 2015 at 22:37

Better to have the router connected to the master then use an Ethernet cable to connect between the router and a small network switch in your room.

rdb2012 · 16 Sep 2015 at 22:39

thenewoc said:
Better to have the router connected to the master then use an Ethernet cable to connect between the router and a small network switch in your room.

But what about wifi devices, such as my phone.

dholdi · 16 Sep 2015 at 22:44

Why wouldn't they still connect to your router wirelessly ?

rdb2012 · 16 Sep 2015 at 22:47

because my master socket is far from my room and i will have a very week signal thats why i have the router in my room as i have ps4, my PC, sky box.

dholdi · 16 Sep 2015 at 22:51

Do you have an old router you could use in your room as a wireless access point ?

rdb2012 · 16 Sep 2015 at 22:57

i have BT home hub 5 as i am using netgear D7000 atm.

PS: just to clarify im getting the full 80mb speed when connecting to the "test socket" rather than the master socket that covers the test socket. Does that make a difference? can i still connect an extension cable to that.

dholdi · 16 Sep 2015 at 23:06

You have other telephone outlets around the house then ?
If you get full speed in the test and reduced in the master as you call it then that suggests an internal wiring issue.
Did OR change the master socket when you upgraded to fibre ?

rdb2012 · 16 Sep 2015 at 23:23

We have got 7-8 sockets in the house. Thats right full speed in the test socket and a much reduced speed in the master socket.

I didn't change as unfortunately i wasn't aware of the fault, otherwise i would have booked an engineer.

thenewoc · 16 Sep 2015 at 23:47

rdb2012 said:
But what about wifi devices, such as my phone.

Put a WAP connected to the network switch.

thenewoc · 16 Sep 2015 at 23:49

rdb2012 said:
We have got 7-8 sockets in the house. Thats right full speed in the test socket and a much reduced speed in the master socket.

I didn't change as unfortunately i wasn't aware of the fault, otherwise i would have booked an engineer.

Sounds like the extension wiring is acting as an aerial and picking up interference. Put a vdsl filtered faceplate on the master socket and then the extension wiring will be isolated from the broadband filtering. You won't need to put dsl filters on all the telephone extensions then either.

rdb2012 · 17 Sep 2015 at 01:44

thenewoc said:
Sounds like the extension wiring is acting as an aerial and picking up interference. Put a vdsl filtered faceplate on the master socket and then the extension wiring will be isolated from the broadband filtering. You won't need to put dsl filters on all the telephone extensions then either.

That won't let me connect my router to extension, will it ?

hellarda · 17 Sep 2015 at 01:54

rdb2012 said:
That won't let me connect my router to extension, will it ?

No but the whole point is you won't get the full 80mb if you connect it to the extension so you don't want to do that anyway... :confused:

edGfaCTor · 17 Sep 2015 at 02:32

rdb2012 said:
We have got 7-8 sockets in the house. Thats right full speed in the test socket and a much reduced speed in the master socket.

I didn't change as unfortunately i wasn't aware of the fault, otherwise i would have booked an engineer.

7-8 is that telephone extensions?

rdb2012 · 17 Sep 2015 at 07:40

edGfaCTor said:
7-8 is that telephone extensions?

Indeed

bledd · 17 Sep 2015 at 10:30

Keep your router next to the master socket, use a short cable (0.5 to 1M RJ11, ADSLNation)

From here run a network cable to a central switch and from that run cables to each room. Add wireless access points as necessary

edGfaCTor · 17 Sep 2015 at 21:04

rdb2012 said:
Indeed

Why? you should only have 4 phones plugged in at most because of REN.

Replace them with cat5/cat6 cable and face plates.

rdb2012 · 17 Sep 2015 at 21:14

edGfaCTor said:
Why? you should only have 4 phones plugged in at most because of REN.

Replace them with cat5/cat6 cable and face plates.

impossible, some of them are internal. I think my only option is to connect router to the master sock and a run a cat5e to my room.

thenewoc · 17 Sep 2015 at 22:22

rdb2012 said:
impossible, some of them are internal. I think my only option is to connect router to the master sock and a run a cat5e to my room.

Maybe you can use your HH as a WAP and switch in your room.

edGfaCTor · 17 Sep 2015 at 22:44

rdb2012 said:
impossible, some of them are internal. I think my only option is to connect router to the master sock and a run a cat5e to my room.

I have not seen it but why can you not pull other cables using the current ones even if it's say only one of them?

A long cable from the master is the best option.

Did you have an Openreach engineer do your BT Infinity install?