Just wondering if anyone here has had anyone quote them for laying around 40 Ethernet cables around a 3 storey house. All cables hidden behind walls and under floors going from a central cupboard and going to all the rooms except toilets and bathrooms.
Network cabling a house
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Am just trying to get an idea, in case anyone here has had something similar to this done.
1 loft bedroom with 4 separate location, multi port faceplates, 3 in outside walls requiring 2 wall chases, 1 is in stud partition wall. This is the easiest room to do since there is a loft above this room for routing cables and the cupboard for the network rack, patch panel and switch is in this room.
All other cables would have to go down the boxed in soil pipe that obviously traverses the floors. On the first floor all cables (except 4) would have to go under the bathroom to the 1st floor landing. At this point cables to the spare bedroom / study would go in one direction towards the front of the house. The rest of the cables would go towards the back of the house to take in the 2nd double bedroom and then chased down the outside walls to the corner behind the lounge TV. 4 cables would continue down the soil pipe enclosure to provide 2 ports in the opposite corner of the lounge to where the TV is and the other 2 would feed through to the kitchen next to the lounge, other side of soil pipe.
1 double bedroom as mentioned above, which is above the lounge, with 3 separate location multi port faceplates, 1 in outside wall but this may not need chasing as cable can come up from space below floor. The other 2 are in stud partition wall.
Spare bedroom / study with 1 multi port faceplate on stud partition wall next to 1st floor landing.
2 further cables dropping down to kitchen (where cables run to spare bedroom) to create a multi port faceplate where the breakfast bar is.
Also drop 5 cables from 1st floor landing through stud partition in ground floor hall way where router / master socket is.
In addition to some walls needing to be chased on the outer walls, some chipboard flooring running the length of the 1st floor landing and 1st floor double bedroom would need to be taken up and replaced afterwards.
So in summary:
Loft bedroom, 10 ports across 4 faceplates
2nd double bedroom (1st floor), 8 ports across 3 faceplates
Spare bedroom / Study, 4 ports in 1 faceplate
Lounge, 8 ports across 3 faceplates
Kitchen, 4 ports across 2 faceplates
Ground floor hall, 4 ports in 1 faceplate, 1 cable linked to telephone master extension IDC's
1 loft bedroom with 4 separate location, multi port faceplates, 3 in outside walls requiring 2 wall chases, 1 is in stud partition wall. This is the easiest room to do since there is a loft above this room for routing cables and the cupboard for the network rack, patch panel and switch is in this room.
All other cables would have to go down the boxed in soil pipe that obviously traverses the floors. On the first floor all cables (except 4) would have to go under the bathroom to the 1st floor landing. At this point cables to the spare bedroom / study would go in one direction towards the front of the house. The rest of the cables would go towards the back of the house to take in the 2nd double bedroom and then chased down the outside walls to the corner behind the lounge TV. 4 cables would continue down the soil pipe enclosure to provide 2 ports in the opposite corner of the lounge to where the TV is and the other 2 would feed through to the kitchen next to the lounge, other side of soil pipe.
1 double bedroom as mentioned above, which is above the lounge, with 3 separate location multi port faceplates, 1 in outside wall but this may not need chasing as cable can come up from space below floor. The other 2 are in stud partition wall.
Spare bedroom / study with 1 multi port faceplate on stud partition wall next to 1st floor landing.
2 further cables dropping down to kitchen (where cables run to spare bedroom) to create a multi port faceplate where the breakfast bar is.
Also drop 5 cables from 1st floor landing through stud partition in ground floor hall way where router / master socket is.
In addition to some walls needing to be chased on the outer walls, some chipboard flooring running the length of the 1st floor landing and 1st floor double bedroom would need to be taken up and replaced afterwards.
So in summary:
Loft bedroom, 10 ports across 4 faceplates
2nd double bedroom (1st floor), 8 ports across 3 faceplates
Spare bedroom / Study, 4 ports in 1 faceplate
Lounge, 8 ports across 3 faceplates
Kitchen, 4 ports across 2 faceplates
Ground floor hall, 4 ports in 1 faceplate, 1 cable linked to telephone master extension IDC's
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Was that £30 including the routing of the cable from end to end or just the terminating at the faceplate?
All I've got layout wise is the developers layout drawing which I've had to flip as ours is the mirror image of what was in the brochure.
Therefore this rough guide now reads from left to right as loft bedroom, 1st floor and then ground floor.
£30 was for the face plate and a cable run upto 25 meters this was many years ago when cat6 had only been out for few years so long time ago.
Are your cavity walls filled?
Which location is your cabinet/patch panel being placed?
Are your cavity walls filled?
Which location is your cabinet/patch panel being placed?
I don't think our cavity walls are filled. I doubt the previous owners had it done, so unless it's a building reg I doubt the developers would have done it either.
The cupboard in the 2nd floor bedroom (left most floor plan), next to the en-suite is where I'd like a wall mount bracket to hold the patch panel and switch as the top area of this cupboard is dead space.
The cupboard in the 2nd floor bedroom (left most floor plan), next to the en-suite is where I'd like a wall mount bracket to hold the patch panel and switch as the top area of this cupboard is dead space.
If it's a recent build, there will be at least some insulation in the cavity to satisfy Building Regs. The insulation has to be either be full-fill or leave a minimum 50mm cavity IIRC.
The other big question which will affect the price, is the house occupied/furnished or empty? If so any carpet/laminate floors? Im presuming chipboard floors rather than floorboards as well?
All the above will affect the labour time and subsequent price quite significantly.
All the above will affect the labour time and subsequent price quite significantly.
It's about 8 years old. I know the internal partition walls are insulated, they have something like loft insulation in them. Actually thinking about it I think there was some sort of insulation in the cavity when I installed the tumble dryer ducting hose through the hole that was already there from the previous one.
Occupied and furnished but no carpet on the 1st or 2nd floors as that has been taken up. Chipboard tongue and groove flooring only on these two floors. Ground floor has laminate.
It probably does sound a lot but some are to go behind wall mounted TV positions in the 2 main bedrooms. Some of them are intended for telephone points too hence the cable connecting to the master socket bringing the telephone service to the patch panel.
A build of only 8 years should have them filled.
I can not see this job being less then £1000 some electricians might do it for less but really those guys go for whatever is the cheapest parts they can get so you would get up with nasty cable.
But no one can really tell you without looking to many variables as some others have pointed out.
Why didn't you think of this when the house was being built?
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OK thanks for the feedback, we bought the house off the previous owners so did not have the option of seeking this as an optional extra from the house builders.
I'm not that keen on an electrician doing it to be honest. My brother got his electrician to do his and he obviously didn't know what he was doing since he stripped way too much of the outer jackets off, like he was doing telephone cable. Didn't leave any spare cable to pull through some more to redo the modules either so his network is forever compromised. Wasn't even following T568A or B wiring standards in places so I had to redo a couple of those that didn't work when my brother came to use them.
Obviously that is one option, subject to time, but I thought someone here might have had a similar job done for an idea of price with a professional doing it.
You are aware that that flooring rarely comes up intact. Also fishing cables through stud walls for any distance is pretty impossible as new(ish) house builders don't care where they put noggins in the walls etc.