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FishFluff said:
If it was anything other than steel I'd have the same opinion, but steel is naturally quite a flexible metal no? 4mm is really not a lot for steel to flex.
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It's quite alarming when you look at the wheel and rather than the forks sitting comfortably on the axle kind of area it's just comically too wide.

Saytan said:
At framebuilding school, we bent our steel frames by considerably more than that to bring them back into shape after brazing.
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I'd have been less miffed if they'd said "yeah, we just need to bend it back into shape" but they've literally said that it requires no work at all.
 
it's really only a problem when taking the wheel in and out.

a squeeze with an old QR to just narrower than the width of the hub should bring it back to the normal width. Steel is very tolerant to bending loads below its fatigue limit
 
FishFluff said:
If it was anything other than steel I'd have the same opinion, but steel is naturally quite a flexible metal no? 4mm is really not a lot for steel to flex.
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agree! doesn't sound too bad, I've bent steel forks on purpose before and never had a problem ;O bet they've looked for cracks etc and if there are none then it is fine, 2mm each side is nothing, forks are kinda flexy in those directions anyway
 
If you read about making single speed bikes out of old retro steel frames there's plenty of blurb about how hub spacing used to be much lower, but it's totes ok because you can just bend the seat/chainstays a bit to make it fit.
 
Yep, I've got a real battle on my hands.

They basically refused to discuss until their manager returns from holiday (Thursday). So I'll return again, and see what he has to say.

Whilst I was there, they informed me that the longer seat post is currently unavailable until December at the earliest. Which if I had known about, back in August when I ordered the bike, I probably would have chosen a different one. Really disappointed to be honest, I just can't believe the quality of the LBS's round here, I just want to find a decent honest one and I'll be a recurring customer for years.
 
Vonhelmet said:
If you read about making single speed bikes out of old retro steel frames there's plenty of blurb about how hub spacing used to be much lower, but it's totes ok because you can just bend the seat/chainstays a bit to make it fit.
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there are frames that come out of the factory at 132.5mm so you can use either road or MTB hubs on them with a bit of good old fashioned springing
 
Sounds like the consensus is that it's okay to bend back, which as I said, I'm okay with.... I'm assuming there's no good reason to leave it in the currently bent out of shape form it is in though? I'm sure my friend can bend it back himself if need be.
 
FrenchTart said:
Sounds like the consensus is that it's okay to bend back, which as I said, I'm okay with.... I'm assuming there's no good reason to leave it in the currently bent out of shape form it is in though? I'm sure my friend can bend it back himself if need be.
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How did the fork get bent apart in the crash? Is there not a chance it was just like that?

I only ask as my steel frame needs a bit of persuading to fit the rear hub in, I assume it's just a manufacturing tolerance thing.
 
uv said:
Depends which EPS it is. Athena EPS is ~€1400.
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Yea, it's the Athena. Which I still think is pretty good spec wise:

Frame
B4P Sempre Carbon Monocoque
Fork Full Carbon B4P 1,5 - 1,125"
Headset
FSA Orbit C-40-ACB
STI / Shifters
Campagnolo Athena EPS 11sp
Rear Derailleur
Campagnolo Athena EPS 11sp
Front Derailleur
Campagnolo Athena EPS 11sp
Crankset
Campa Athena Alloy 50/34
Bottom Bracket
Included in crankset
Chain
Campagnolo Chorus11sp
Casette
Campagnolo Chorus11sp 12-25
Brakes
FSA Gossamer
Wheels
Campagnolo Zonda
Tires
Hutchinson Foldable
Stem
FSA SL-K celeste
Handlebar
FSA Reparto Corse compact
Grip / Tape
Cork
Seatpost
FSA SL-K carbon celeste
Saddle
San Marco
Weight
7.7kg in Sz.57

Just need to keep at him... :p I see it more of a challenge now. Which I will not give up on... although I'd get a load of abuse here as it's not celeste... but my current bianchi isn't either so... :p :p
 
One More Solo said:
How did the fork get bent apart in the crash? Is there not a chance it was just like that?

I only ask as my steel frame needs a bit of persuading to fit the rear hub in, I assume it's just a manufacturing tolerance thing.
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I saw the fork before the crash and it was definitely not like that. I don't know how exactly things worked out during the crash itself - the guy was going at about 32mph according to Strava but aside from him getting severe frame/speed wobble that he couldn't get under control he doesn't remember much of the incident. Despite being conscious (according to the pics the guy he was with got) he pretty much remembers nothing until he woke up later in the hospital.
 
FrenchTart said:
I saw the fork before the crash and it was definitely not like that. I don't know how exactly things worked out during the crash itself - the guy was going at about 32mph according to Strava but aside from him getting severe frame/speed wobble that he couldn't get under control he doesn't remember much of the incident. Despite being conscious (according to the pics the guy he was with got) he pretty much remembers nothing until he woke up later in the hospital.
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:o Nice. I wouldn't have any qualms about riding that though, just bend it back a bit without a wheel and you should be fine.
 
I'm sure he'll be fine with bending it back, cheers.

Part of the reason I'm really suspicious about the bike shop decision is that originally they didn't even notice, then when I called them said something along the lines of "I just thought the hub was too small for the fork" and then the next day have said "no work required". It just doesn't feel right.
 
FrenchTart said:
Part of the reason I'm really suspicious about the bike shop decision is that originally they didn't even notice, then when I called them said something along the lines of "I just thought the hub was too small for the fork" and then the next day have said "no work required". It just doesn't feel right.
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It's not uncommon for dropouts on metal frames to be a few mm out of spec. It's maybe not a case of them not noticing it but rather just that they didnt think it was an issue.
 
God it was wet and nasty this morning. Had to break out the winter bike...

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:O NO HE DIDN'T, NOT IN THE ROAD THREAD!!
 
sHo0sH said:
God it was wet and nasty this morning. Had to break out the winter bike...

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:O NO HE DIDN'T, NOT IN THE ROAD THREAD!!
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WTF is the point on the integrated headset/stem on that? Can't be for aero-gainz?! Just to make it look more ugly? :p
 
FrenchTart said:
Sounds like the consensus is that it's okay to bend back, which as I said, I'm okay with.... I'm assuming there's no good reason to leave it in the currently bent out of shape form it is in though? I'm sure my friend can bend it back himself if need be.
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I think you want to be sure that it's not bent off to one side though. Without clamping it to something square and taking some measurements, I think the easiest way to see is probably to put a nutted wheel in it and tighten it on one side only, then loosen and repeat on the other side. If the fork or dropout are bent then you should see the other end of the axle pull out the dropout when you tighten it up.
 
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