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Road Cycling

Discussion in 'SA Archive' started by Zefan, Mar 2, 2015.

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  1. Vonhelmet

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    I figured so. I assume the right "dummy" pedal is basically a sealed unit, so like you say you'd have to get a right Vector upgrade pedal and then the Vector 2 upgrade.

    You can get a Vector 2S upgrade kit, but I don't think there's much difference between Vector and Vector 2 anyway.
     
  2. BennyC

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    I got my head around this today.

    Vector is the original single sided
    Vector 2 is the new dual sided
    Vector 2S is the new but single sided version

    Upgrade kits are available for both the Vector and Vector 2S to achieve dual sided readouts but both cost around £3-400, not the £120 I anticipated. So there’s no saving as I thought from buying a new single (£500) and upgrading new (£3-400) over the Vector 2 new at £900.

    I’ve been looking today and quite fancy the PowerTap P1 pedals. They seem to be the simplest to fit (I have a torque wrench but it’s not needed), don’t have testicles hanging off either side :p and easily changed AAA batteries are appealing.

    DCR reviewed them well and there are minimal reports of teething problems from what I can see. Not cheap though at £999.99, a Platinum discount on Wiggle makes them £925 odd. I’d be keen to wait and see if they have another 17% (I think it was?) Platinum discount boost and pick some up then for under £900.00.

    This is a long 23 minute wait :o

    http://www.duraace.com/
     
  3. madindehead

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    I know right! I'm mainly interested to see what happens power meter wise from them.

    I'm assuming that the P1 pedals have temp compensation and auto zero? That's one thing that was put me off the 4iiii a bit. Reading on DCRainmaker, it has no temp compensation, whereas P2M does...
     
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  4. Schizo

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    Note to oneself,try starting the garmin before you go on a 30 mile ride !!!!!
     
  5. BennyC

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    They have temp compensation and just need calibrating at the start of each ride/use which isn't really an inconvenience.

    http://www.dcrainmaker.com/2015/08/powertap-p1-pedals-review.html

    Group buy discount please :p
     
  6. madindehead

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  7. BennyC

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    They are widely available though from a quick google and not much difference price wise to regular cleats.

    Would rather specialised cleats than a faff when changing them between bikes & batteries :)

    Juicy but if investing in PM Pedals an integrated crank based PM is a bit of a moot point :p be interesting to see the pricing & weight details when available.

    Really think they should have stuck with the/a silver 'top of the range' design. Other than a thicker crank arm it looks far too similar to the Ultegra on first appearance :(
     
  8. Roady

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    Interested in everyones first thoughts?

    I'm probably not going to have much time to read up on it all until next week or so (or with bleary eyes @6am in Heathrow tomorrow morning while waiting for 10am flight to Stockholm).

    My first impression, 9100 crankarm is ugly. 4 arm and wonky looking. :p:eek::rolleyes:

    EDIT: put me down for a pair of P1's!
     
  9. madindehead

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    My other issue is, I bought Sidi shoes because they have the Look Memory bolt. Those cleats don't appear to have a memory slot.

    The biggest upgrades appear to be: power meter, Di2 stuff (Android/iOS app programming etc.), Dura-Ace specific disc brakes and new calipers with support for 28c tyres. And of course said wheels to match.
     
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  10. Vonhelmet

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    The thing that puzzles me is the upgrade kits to get you from Vector to Vector 2 or Vector S to Vector 2S. Those only cost like £120 or £80. So I don't get quite why you can't upgrade a Vector S right pedal with the guts from the upgrade kit.

    The testicles put me off the vectors, but at that price I can live with it, as the only comparably priced power meter is the precision, which is relatively unproven and seemingly unobtainable.
     
  11. Zefan

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    This one has grown to a hell of a size now. For the sake of forum performance this could do with closing and a new one reopening.

    Does someone keen want to whip up a new Road Cycling thread, one that can be updated over time with useful information?
     
  12. SoliD

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    I've one pod you could buy off me (vector 1), then you just need to source a pedal.

    The upgrade kit which I recently purchased only really contains the pods and a new plastic bit for the spindle. The complicated gizmos are still all in the pedal.

    New duraace di2 sounds interesting from a TT perspective with the semi synchro stuff.
     
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  13. madindehead

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    We should get FrenchTart to make a new one :p
     
  14. FrenchTart

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