I think the point is that if someone was leaving because they're in fear of their life/safety they would settle in the first safe country. Not travel half way around the world on a fairly dangerous journey.
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I think the point is that if someone was leaving because they're in fear of their life/safety they would settle in the first safe country. Not travel half way around the world on a fairly dangerous journey.
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I wonder if Merkel has inadvertently killed the EU?
And then riot when they don't get their way.
So why do you think they are risking their and their families lives, leaving their homelands and taking a dangerous journey half way across the world...leaving the lives that were affluent enough to afford iphones, selfie sticks and various branded clothing...not for fear, no....but for £72.50 / week JSA?
This is what worries me as well (though not many of them seem to be risking their family's lives) - it's almost as though there's something telling these people that Europe is the land of milk and honey.
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Is the journey that dangerous? What percentage have died?
I can't think of many Muslims that would want to hang around the Balkans. Don't know many Brits who would either. Turkey's arming ISIS because ISIS are fighting the Kurds and they're all known for Islamic sectarianism. The rest of the Balkans has been plagued by religious conflict and sectarianism right up until the 1990s (Kosovo anyone?). So I don't know why people would expect Muslims to stop there or other Balkan states, renowned for their anti-semitism and racism, either.
If you're worried about immigration, move to a country that's divided by sectarianism. And full of racists. Like Northern Ireland. It's still in the UK too (at least for now) and full of white people. So theoretically, the complainers should be happy. But I imagine they'd still find something to bitch about when they got here.
Well, the intention doesn't worry me, as I do believe it is motivated from fear and desperation, but to elaborate and also answer Uthers post below
I don't think there is anybody who is saying this crisis isn't bringing many problems, we are just arguing about the ways in which to deal with them.
Germany are set to take in another 800,000. You can't import that level of 3rd world culture and religious strife into Germany and not expect the crime and rape statistics to skyrocket. I'm just waiting for German media to start covering it up, think Rotherham on an industrial scale.
That argument may have held water if it was just Syrian refugees, the reality is that there are lots of nationalities who have decided to join this great migration - people from countries where there isn't war.
Consider this, how many times do we see on the news an interview with a migrant who has made it to Britain/Germany/Netherlands and found that it didn't meet their expectations and they wish they'd never come?
Kosovo and Bosnia are Muslim nations - we should know as we created them, especially the former. I'd love to live in Ulster - it looks lovely for the most part.
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Not to mention that it going to get extremely dangerous when they start trying to forcibly ship thousands upon thousands of angry economic parasites to countries that they don't want to be in.
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Great point, the people claiming they can't be refugees because some have iPhones and fashionable clothing are the same one saying they are only coming here to live off benefits (which as you point out isn't some massive payout).
Wouldn't that be moving to lower standard of living?
forcing people to live with migrants they don't want - you can see people getting violent.
Wow, what a surprise, the same 4 out of 28 countries voting against the rest....not really news
Ooohhh, that'll have those 4 countries quaking in their boots
GG EUKosovo is. But it's tiny and still suffering the effects of the war. It can't be expected to house the majority of people coming out of the middle east. Bosnia I believe has a large Islamic population, but between Orthodox and Christianity, it outnumbers the Islamic population. And again, still suffering the effects and sectarianism associated with the Bosnian war.
Ulsters alright. The politicians are the problem. If you think mainstream UK politics are bad, trail it kicking and screaming into the bible belt and beat it round the head with the big book of victim complex and misunderstood freedom fighter syndrome.
All incorrect. The FACTS are following:
1.) They are here ILLEGALLY, they forced their way through state borders.
2.) Desperate people my ass. Eurostat says just about 20% are from Syria, others just joined the crowds in search of better life because there are some stupid countries (Germany, Sweden etc.) paying them insane amounts of money for doing NOTHING and openly inviting them. Not only that, they passed through many safe countries but didn't stay there which disqualified them from being called refugees. They see a destination country and will riot and cause problems until some softy let's them have it their way.
3.) You may have some moral obligations to accept a number of economic migrants (also in your home if you want to), but I DON'T. I owe everyone who comes here **** all. I didn't get anything for free, I wake up at 4am to get to work and pay all my bills while getting screwed by a taxman. Europe is Europe not because some idiotic commie politicians but because of generations of common people's hard work and sacrifices.
4.)...and finally, STFU!, please.
In the homes of the people we just deported to make room for them. Move along, there's no problem here.
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