Bradford most likely.
The EU Migrant Crisis
- Thread starter Ricochet J
- Start date
- Status
Bradford most likely.
It's not at all, even countries whose governments have forcibly accepted refugee quotas are not happy with the incoming cultural enrichment. Poland for example.
Turkey is arming ISIS? Or do you mean they did arm ISIS? I think you'll probably find the latter is more accurate.
Deportees are nearly all from detention centres which is pretty obvious if you think about it.
Any at large are hardly going to allow themselves to be found are they.
Man of Honour
- Joined
- 29 May 2004
- Posts
- 4,488
- Location
- Tall building nearby
For some, especially those who have seen IS first hand, not the odd graphic video on live-leak, I don't think the standard of living will mean anything to them. For the real refugees having witnessed those things the only thing they want that we have is normality, safety, stability.
There are those who have more economic aims, quite possibly some with bad intentions or a bad history. My own grandfather was one of those once, an Hungarian army officer, rifle carrying Hitler loving scumbag, I idolised him as a child but if he were alive today I would have nothing to do with him. My point is, my grandfather managed to slip into the UK among innocent DP's after WW2. Where you have a great influx of people from a conflict there will always be those who either move with influx for selfish reasons (economics) or those who should never be allowed in.
There are those who have more economic aims, quite possibly some with bad intentions or a bad history. My own grandfather was one of those once, an Hungarian army officer, rifle carrying Hitler loving scumbag, I idolised him as a child but if he were alive today I would have nothing to do with him. My point is, my grandfather managed to slip into the UK among innocent DP's after WW2. Where you have a great influx of people from a conflict there will always be those who either move with influx for selfish reasons (economics) or those who should never be allowed in.
It wasn't true the last time I challenged when you said it, and it's no more true now.
I posted up the analysis of deportee's and they don't nearly all come from detention centres at all.
The greatest % are Asians whose work or student visa has expired.
But don't let facts get in the way of your uninformed opinion.
Soldato
- Joined
- 29 Jul 2004
- Posts
- 7,166
But it's not just 72.50 a week is it. It will amount to thousands a month per family. To say otherwise is just stupidity.
Soldato
- Joined
- 13 Jun 2011
- Posts
- 6,053
Ill take a bet that 1-2 months time the government pussys out, lets 1000's more of them in.
The single thing weve got going for us is that were an island so they cant walk here.
NHS, education, translation.....
Soldato
- Joined
- 8 Mar 2007
- Posts
- 10,938
None of those are "facts". There is one, badly out of context number (i.e implying the only warzone on the Earth is Syria) the rest is just right-wing conjecture.
Writing facts in capitals letters doesn't make them more true you know.
After all those years of laughing at how stupid the US is, now we're the fools.
Sadness.
The scheme must now be ratified by EU leaders in Brussels on Wednesday.
If one country says no, the deal will not happen. I am sure I was reading every country will have a veto power so the decision must be unanimous.
But representing benefits in kind as income they will have is disingenuous at best as it is only £72.50 a week if that's all they get to spend in their pocket....oh, and I was being slightly facetious with my £72.50 a week comment as they don't get anything near that amount for being a refugee, so again, it's hardly economic migration is it, since as you guys say, they all seem well fed, with iphones and branded clothing...
Yes I appreciate there is costs to the tax payer (but not income to the refugee) like Housing Benefit, but as migration watch reported they are generally given the low quality housing that other people don't want to take
Last edited:
You are just an ignorant troll*, no point wasting time on you.
*most probably leftist as well
Well, what education costs since they are all fighting age young males with no children that are invading us...and being young, fit and glowingly healthy (since they aren't refugee's who have to be starving and poor) they won't require much NHS...and since don't want to integrate, there's no worries about translation costs either
This is all so utterly bizarre. Maybe this insanity crusade Merkel seems hellbent on completing and/or destroying the EU in the process will before too long see a more conservative German government take stage that in turn could help us with reforming the EU?
Well I can wish.
Well I can wish.
Man of Honour
- Joined
- 29 May 2004
- Posts
- 4,488
- Location
- Tall building nearby
The EU could always put Syrian boots on the ground to help solve this problem, recruit some of these fighting age men. Give them proper training/equipment and form units to go back and help themselves fighting IS with at least half decent trained men. A little like we did with the Poles and others in WW2.
Well if he has to produce 'proof' to back up his claims, you should too, and you haven't. Unless you're saying that our default position should be to accept the 'refugee' narrative unquestioningly, which is nonsense.
Don't give a flying ****. Why are all these problems about us? We didn't cause those wars so we are under no obligation to suffer the consequences in terms of the massive economic burden of accepting those refugees and the massive social upheaval that would also result. And before you spout off about the Geneva convention again, please don't bother. The UK Parliament is sovereign in this country and will be until the Geneva convention gets an army.
Oh well that's okay then, is it? How can you write such nonsense with a straight face? People are supposed to be okay with the fact that they're almost all men because 'they're going to bring their families over later'? And what you're saying doesn't even make sense: if the situation where they came from was so bad why would the head of the family -- the father -- leave them to fend for themselves while they traipsed off to Europe?
Thank goodness we currently have a government with a bit of common sense and not some bleeding heart 'citizen of the world' types like you, with no seeming understanding of the practicalities of absorbing that many refugees (or, to be more accurate, economic migrants) in a society that has already absorbed millions of economic migrants from other EU countries in recent years. Most British people (me included) would like to help genuine refugees, but there are two important provisos: (i) they have to be genuine refugees (which many of the current influx absolutely are not) and (ii) we have to have the capability of properly integrating these people once they get here.
Do we have the social housing available to house 100,000 new migrants (oh and lets not forget their families who will be on their way soon after)? Do we have the spare capacity in the NHS? Do we have the spare school places? Can we afford to give them language training so that they will hopefully be able to find a job down the line? Can we afford to pay them benefits until such a time as they are employable? Currently the answer to most of those questions is no.
Last edited:
- Status