No evidence bloke filmed snorting coke was snorting coke.

estebanrey said:
I thought the process was whatever the cops catch you with, they charge you with possession of half of it. That way, you get a lesser sentence and they get half your stash for the Police Xmas party....everyone wins

....that's what a 'geezer' I used to know told me happens anyway :p
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I have heard stories about this going on in the police. People getting nicked and only half of the drugs stash/money is submitted in court. :eek:

Like you are going to admit to having more than the police say. :confused:
Win win for them. ;)

So lets look at the facts.

He was paying for sex which is soliciting prostitution. Illegal

He was in possession of either Cocain or Amphetamines. Illegal

He was taking a controlled substance. Illegal.

He had a controlled substance in his system. Not illegal. Unless you driving etc.

He was wearing a bra, not illegal but a sign of being under the influence.

AND!!! Puff the magic dragon! No crime committed. Pmsl. :D
 
kitch9 said:
Drug tests aren't admissible in court without a warrant. Not much point in testing for coke after 48 hours it leaves the body quick.
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Yes, but that's my point. If the Police were notified (hypothetically) immediately, they could force a drugs test. If your "lordship" refuses charge him anyway.

Better yet, Burnsy should have someone tailing this goon, bugging his phone, monitoring all his emails, phone calls, texts and location data. Then use it against him!
 
itchy said:
I have heard stories about this going on in the police. People getting nicked and only half of the drugs stash/money is submitted in court. :eek:

Like you are going to admit to having more than the police say. :confused:
Win win for them. ;)

So lets look at the facts.

He was paying for sex which is soliciting prostitution. Illegal

He was in possession of either Cocain or Amphetamines. Illegal

He was taking a controlled substance. Illegal.

He had a controlled substance in his system. Not illegal. Unless you driving etc.

He was wearing a bra, not illegal but a sign of being under the influence.

AND!!! Puff the magic dragon! No crime committed. Pmsl. :D
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Unfortunately the evidence is circumstantial at best, it would be a lawyers easiest paycheck ever to talk his client out of that one.
 
Freakbro said:
So....they have a 45min video of him talking about coke, saying about getting coke, saying yea lets get some coke if people like it, chopping up and snorting white power (coke) smoking joints and having sex with the prostitutes.

(Sure, I can think of worse ways to spend the afternoon :p)

But the investigation provided insufficient evidence.....hmmm >.>
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circumstantial unless they found coke on him............ he could have been talking about dessicated coca cola for all they know..................
 
itchy said:
I have heard stories about this going on in the police. People getting nicked and only half of the drugs stash/money is submitted in court. :eek:

Like you are going to admit to having more than the police say. :confused:
Win win for them. ;)

So lets look at the facts.

He was paying for sex which is soliciting prostitution. Illegal
Paying for her "company" is not illegal. If they happen to have sex as consenting adults then it's coincidence ;).

He was in possession of either Cocain or Amphetamines. Illegal
Was he? They found no evidence of drugs. Could have been snorting extra strong mints.

He was taking a controlled substance. Illegal.
Shown to allegedly snort a controlled substance, but how can you conclusively prove it, beyond reasonable doubt? The met say no.

He had a controlled substance in his system. Not illegal. Unless you driving etc.
So not illegal then?

He was wearing a bra, not illegal but a sign of being under the influence.
Or he could be a closet transsexual? Or simply messing about?

AND!!! Puff the magic dragon! No crime committed. Pmsl. :D
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It's either young children, pigs, or hookers and (not really) coke with this lot isn't it...
No wonder the country's ******
 
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AFAIK taking drugs is not a crime, unless in control of a vehicle, possession or intent to supply yes.
 
RaohNS said:
Yes, but that's my point. If the Police were notified (hypothetically) immediately, they could force a drugs test. If your "lordship" refuses charge him anyway.

Better yet, Burnsy should have someone tailing this goon, bugging his phone, monitoring all his emails, phone calls, texts and location data. Then use it against him!
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charge him with what, the law only covers possession and intent to supply. So unless they nicked him while driving a car or opertaing dangerous machinery at work while coked up then they have nothing.

Wow some people really have no idea.............

The Misuse of Drugs Act 1971 is an Act of the Parliament of the United Kingdom. It represents action in line with treaty commitments under the Single Convention on Narcotic Drugs,[2] the Convention on Psychotropic Substances,[3] and the United Nations Convention Against Illicit Traffic in Narcotic Drugs and Psychotropic Substances.[4]

Offences under the Act include:[5]

Possession of a controlled drug unlawfully
Possession of a controlled drug with intent to supply it
Supplying or offering to supply a controlled drug (even where no charge is made for the drug)
Allowing premises you occupy or manage to be used unlawfully for the purpose of producing or supplying controlled drugs
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don't see anything in there about taking drugs.................

It’s illegal to drive if either:

you’re unfit to do so because you’re on legal or illegal drugs
you have certain levels of illegal drugs in your blood (even if they haven’t affected your driving)
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The police can stop you and make you do a ‘field impairment assessment’ if they think you’re on drugs. This is a series of tests, eg asking you to walk in a straight line. They can also use a roadside drug kit to screen for cannabis and cocaine.

If they think you’re unfit to drive because of taking drugs, you’ll be arrested and will have to take a blood or urine test at a police station.

You could be charged with a crime if the test shows you’ve taken drugs.
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He wasn't driving so they can't subject him to a forced drugs test even if they wanted to.
 
nkata said:
AFAIK taking drugs is not a crime, unless in control of a vehicle, possession or intent to supply yes.
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Taking drugs is a crime as you will be in possession of said drug while consuming. Once its in you sod all they can do.

The has been many of media news and rage about people taking drugs.
Celebrities and footballers and the is out rage. Yet lord snoot gets a free pass. :rolleyes:

As for paying for company they where reported to be prostitutes, if I want a lady to accompany me to dinner I would not pick a prostitute.

Who snorts mints? Snorting is either cocain, mdma or speed. All illegal.

So we can deduce, he was a lonely, mint snorting closet transvestite. :p
 
itchy said:
Taking drugs is a crime as you will be in possession of said drug while consuming. Once its in you sod all they can do.

The has been many of media news and rage about people taking drugs.
Celebrities and footballers and the is out rage. Yet lord snoot gets a free pass. :rolleyes:

As for paying for company they where reported to be prostitutes, if I want a lady to accompany me to dinner I would not pick a prostitute.

Who snorts mints? Snorting is either cocain, mdma or speed. All illegal.

So we can deduce, he was a lonely, mint snorting closet transvestite. :p
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Taking drugs is not a crime unless you get caught in possession. You are making assumptions with no factual basis, for all we know he may have a trebor extra strong mint snorting addiction.

Public outrage is not a substitute for evidence that can be produced in a court of law to secure a conviction. In this case there was not enough substantial evidence that gave the CPS enough confidence to proceed with any charges.
 
Who cares, most of them do coke anyway, hell even Britains water supply probably has traces of cocaine in it.. SO many people do it. Think about that £20 note in your wallet, probably got traces on it too.
 
itchy said:
I have heard stories about this going on in the police. People getting nicked and only half of the drugs stash/money is submitted in court. :eek:

Like you are going to admit to having more than the police say. :confused:
Win win for them. ;)
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I made that point in jest as after thinking about it for more than 30 seconds it doesn't really make sense.

I'm not 100% sure how charges and sentences work when it comes to drug possession but I'm pretty sure it isn't perfectly correlated to the amount. It comes down to whether you had enough for it to be reasonable assumed you are a dealer and not just a user and once you're over that limit (which I think is pretty low) then you pretty much get the same sentence whether you're caught with a kilo or half a kilo aren't you?

Also, surely someone who's going down anyway has nothing to lose by dobbing in the cops and criminals usually love getting one over on the fuzz even it it hurts them slightly in the process.

Furthermore someone who exposes a police officer for stealing drugs would have that considered in their sentence and get a lighter one as a reult I would have thought.
 
estebanrey said:
I made that point in jest as after thinking about it for more than 30 seconds it doesn't really make sense.

I'm not 100% sure how charges and sentences work when it comes to drug possession but I'm pretty sure it isn't perfectly correlated to the amount. It comes down to whether you had enough for it to be reasonable assumed you are a dealer and not just a user and once you're over that limit (which I think is pretty low) then you pretty much get the same sentence whether you're caught with a kilo or half a kilo aren't you?

Also, surely someone who's going down anyway has nothing to lose by dobbing in the cops and criminals usually love getting one over on the fuzz even it it hurts them slightly in the process.

Furthermore someone who exposes a police officer for stealing drugs would have that considered in their sentence and get a lighter one as a reult I would have thought.
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guidance on what constitutes intent to supply with regards to ammounts seized can be read here

http://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk...s_Definitive_Guideline_final_web1.pdf#page=11

200Kg of weed would see you away for around 14 years unless you could prove you were planing on blazing through the whole lot solo in your garage :)

For context, this is what 200Kg of ganj looks like. Would be a world record if anyone could blaze through that solo in a week and remember anything !! lol

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estebanrey said:
I made that point in jest as after thinking about it for more than 30 seconds it doesn't really make sense.

I'm not 100% sure how charges and sentences work when it comes to drug possession but I'm pretty sure it isn't perfectly correlated to the amount. It comes down to whether you had enough for it to be reasonable assumed you are a dealer and not just a user and once you're over that limit (which I think is pretty low) then you pretty much get the same sentence whether you're caught with a kilo or half a kilo aren't you?

Also, surely someone who's going down anyway has nothing to lose by dobbing in the cops and criminals usually love getting one over on the fuzz even it it hurts them slightly in the process.

Furthermore someone who exposes a police officer for stealing drugs would have that considered in their sentence and get a lighter one as a reult I would have thought.
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No this happened it was time a go now, but some guy we knew had £25K in a shoe box and 9 kg of cannabis resin in the wash basket. Stupid person. :rolleyes:

Got nicked it went to court and £17k was said to be found and 6kg of resin. :eek: The guy went nuts but what could he do? He still got time anyway and to argue the was more would be madness.

Don't be daft as they say, everyone is at it. ;)

Loads of stories about this happening and its not in the media I can assure you. :p
 
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