Abortion/termination - anyone ever had one?

Having a baby at just the time of final exams/final project at uni is something I will probably end up doing this academic year. I'm full-time employed, studying towards a BEng, have a two year old, a wife and all the trimmings that goes with that lot. I fit a lot in, I'm often busy DIYing the house/car/whatever as well as juggling deadlines for uni.

I can understand your concerns, but IME it's not that hard to juggle a baby, family and study. You just learn to deal with it and in doing so become more resilient, more efficient and TBH you know it's not likely to ever get much harder than it is at that time.

Thanks for your input, sounds like you have a very busy life.

If she keeps the pregnancy and the two of you have a baby, whether you stay together or not, you still have a responsibility to support the child. How successful that is will be upto both of you.

If she does go with a termination, then you both have your freedom, but you and her will have second-thoughts, guilt, depression risk etc. not just short term but also later on. This is not a fallout-free solution to the dillema of unplanned parenthood pregnancy that many people think it is.

Neither option is easy, neither option has a right/wrong answer.

As the bloke in the equation, you can only influence but ultimately the decision is hers.

I've already told her the decision is up to her ultimately and I'll support her no matter what she decides.


As a couple of others mentioned, it’s not really your choice... sure you can state your feelings to your gf about it but ultimately she has the final choice. Granted a new born will be more "work" but you say she already has a 4 year old child soooooo why is s/he (child) not an issue but a new born by you and her a problem ? Seems conflicting to me.

Sounds like you and your gf really need to sit down and talk together (just you and her). But you can't force her to do anything.

The 4 year old isn't my child, we are very close however. But I don't even live with my GF, we have our separate homes - I have no commitments to that child as she isn't mine.

The arrival of this new baby, requires some serious commitment obviously, not only to the baby but also to my GF and her child - as we'd all be moving in together to play happy families. Otherwise I probably wouldn't be moving in to their home if she wasn't pregnant.

I hope that gets across what Im trying to say, finding it hard to put into words.


So, you had a mishap and took the MA pill.

She then had a period as normal.

Then 2 weeks after that you had another mishap?

Is that what you mean?


Yes but not a mishap as such as we must have had a defective condom (like I say they're only 97% effective IIRC).
 
My first daughter came along at 24 for me. GF was 20 so we just missed out on the teenage mum badge.

We got pregnant again about 2010 and it just was the worst possible time. We had agreed to take on a business and my GF was the only one that could do the job (Hairdresser). We had just put pen to paper and we in for many tens of thousands of pounds. A new baby would have ruined us. So we agreed to terminate. Frankly it was horrible and that's just from my perspective!

We became pregnant again in 2012 and although the business wasn't great we decided we couldn't go through that again so went with it. Sadly the pregnancy triggered cancer in my GF and she didn't last a year - although the baby is healthy and now nearly 3. :)

However, we met, got pregnant, moved in together in less than a year and managed 13 years together and would still be together now.
 
We had a termination due to medical reasons last year. It was and still is a nightmare. Every time my fiancée sees someone pregnant she can't help but feel resentment towards them and to this day she does feel like a murderer. This is despite the survival chances of the little one being zero.
 
Your age gap is pretty similar to me and my girlfriend. (25 & 30)

I'm definitely not ready for kids but once they hit 30 that's all they care about! (even if she's already had one like in your case)

If she wants it she will keep it.




She actually brought up the subject of kids after we had only been together a couple of months. I said I outright don't want them and don't ever think I will and we nearly broke up. When it last came up again I said I definitely don't want a kid any time soon but who knows in the future and that seemed to be enough for her for now. I'm literally waiting every time I speak to her for her to bring it up again...


Similar situation, it was brought up after only a few months of been together too and said I wanted to wait until Uni was out the way with before I even thought about having them. She agreed and went on the BC pill but had to come off about 8 months ago for medical reasons.

Up until her getting pregnant we were both agreed that NOW wasn't the time to have a baby, but now that she's gotten pregnant she has changed her mind.


Have a read of Vita's thread.

You can make your opinion known to your GF but ultimately if she keeps it and you split up there's nothing you can do, you'll be supporting the child either way.

I take it your GF has a house of her own?


I will support that child 100% if she decides to keep it, the worrying bit is the idea of the everlasting commitment to the GF and her child. I feel likes its rushing the relationship when I don't really feel ready to take such a massive step in our relationship like moving in.

Yes she has her own house out in the country, its not really big enough for a family though IMO.
 
24, mature student... GF is 31.

These are also my concerns, if this relationship is going to be long term, we've been together for 2 years, had some rough patches I admit and although the last few months have been pretty great. Its not necessarily an indication that this will last or won't last.

Thanks for your input.

Do you feel the need for a paternity test? All things being equal, if you weren't aware of or expecting contraception failure this time round then it's something to consider. Either that or she may have helped matters along.

As for all the other stuff, assuming it's yours, nothing anyone can say or guide you on will steer her decision.

Do you see yourself with her in the future as a family? Do you get on well and are you happy?

Many benefits to having kids when you are younger and there are infinitely worse things that could have happened to you.
 
My first daughter came along at 24 for me. GF was 20 so we just missed out on the teenage mum badge.

We got pregnant again about 2010 and it just was the worst possible time. We had agreed to take on a business and my GF was the only one that could do the job (Hairdresser). We had just put pen to paper and we in for many tens of thousands of pounds. A new baby would have ruined us. So we agreed to terminate. Frankly it was horrible and that's just from my perspective!

We became pregnant again in 2012 and although the business wasn't great we decided we couldn't go through that again so went with it. Sadly the pregnancy triggered cancer in my GF and she didn't last a year - although the baby is healthy and now nearly 3. :)

However, we met, got pregnant, moved in together in less than a year and managed 13 years together and would still be together now.

So sorry for you loss Edd, that's heart breaking. I appreciate you sharing that information however.

I wish you all the best.


We had a termination due to medical reasons last year. It was and still is a nightmare. Every time my fiancée sees someone pregnant she can't help but feel resentment towards them and to this day she does feel like a murderer. This is despite the survival chances of the little one being zero.


Sorry to probe further but was it medical issue with your fiancee or the baby?

The GF suffered damage to her back/pelvis during her last pregnancy and did express concerns about how it would effect this pregnancy as a result. She often wakes up 5/6 times a night and cant bend her back, literally frozen into position. Even after intense physio for several years.
 
Personally I'm all in the abort camp.

Don't need any responsibilities before 30 and unplanned babies. I personally think people opposed to it are not thinking clearly. In my eyes it's something that would destroy my life as I know it. Kids is something you plan for years in advance, career and financially wise...

Mind that I'm 24, a bit immature, and never went through anything remotely like this decision wise.
 
Why is it a worry for you? The commitment thing I mean.

Has she spoke to a doctor since you've found out/was there any advice on her last birth about future complications?
 
Personally I'm all in the abort camp.

Don't need any responsibilities before 30 and unplanned babies. I personally think people opposed to it are not thinking clearly. In my eyes it's something that would destroy my life as I know it. Kids is something you plan for years in advance, career and financially wise...

Mind that I'm 24, a bit immature, and never went through anything remotely like this decision wise.

Problem is your thinking like a bloke and with all the emotional detachment afforded you.
 
Yes but not a mishap as such as we must have had a defective condom (like I say they're only 97% effective IIRC).

Well unless it split (which you would definitely know about) the chances of getting her pregnant using a condom is very low.

I don't want to be the first one to say it, but are you sure it is yours?
 
Do you feel the need for a paternity test? All things being equal, if you weren't aware of or expecting contraception failure this time round then it's something to consider. Either that or she may have helped matters along.

As for all the other stuff, assuming it's yours, nothing anyone can say or guide you on will steer her decision.

Do you see yourself with her in the future as a family? Do you get on well and are you happy?

Many benefits to having kids when you are younger and there are infinitely worse things that could have happened to you.

Hi, no I don't feel the need for a paternity test, I trust her completely.

We get on well and are happy at the moment yes, but like I said we have been through some pretty rough/testing patches in this relationship and even called it quits a couple of times but things seem to be going great now we've ironed out our differences.

Im not sure if I see us being together as a family, I would like to but didn't want to make any rash decisions and wanted to give us time to prove we could work long term before deciding to move in together and have a baby but now everything has come at once.


Why is it a worry for you? The commitment thing I mean.

Has she spoke to a doctor since you've found out/was there any advice on her last birth about future complications?


Like mentioned above the commitment scares me as to if this relationship is actually going to work long term as we've not long ago ironed out or differences but not had the real test of living with each other 24/7 but now it seems Im been thrown in at the deep end. We do love each other but sometimes thats no guarantee.

We did go to see a doctor yesterday and when we brought up that issue he just pushed a leaflet under our noses to ring antenatal if we wished to continue with the pregnancy. Then quickly ushered us out of the room, we must have been in there 3 minutes if we was lucky.
 
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Well unless it split (which you would definitely know about) the chances of getting her pregnant using a condom is very low.

I don't want to be the first one to say it, but are you sure it is yours?

Which is not nill, very unlucky yes but still more than possible.
 
Well unless it split (which you would definitely know about) the chances of getting her pregnant using a condom is very low.

I don't want to be the first one to say it, but are you sure it is yours?


Haha yes, Im sure. Maybe it did split and I didn't realise, too late to check now however.
 
As someone who had a kid in his early 20s, when ideally I'd have like to have focused on my career more - I see your point.
There's pros and cons, I wish you the best of luck with whichever way it goes. :)
 
Does very much sound like you aren't ready for a baby
Both the timing and not living together

It also sounds like ideally (if it was your decision) you wouldn't keep it
Also sounds kind of (maybe wrong) you aren't at the point of being sure that this relationship is going the distance?

Personally I wouldn't have a support network of any kind if such a thing happened to me
Do you have this?

I'm going with general feeling that this child is going to be born, it's whether you want to be there monetarily or in person


Is the biggest problem the exams or the relationship (not being fully fledged)?
 
Problem is your thinking like a bloke and with all the emotional detachment afforded you.

That's ultimately how these decisions should be made, logically and detached from any kinds of emotions imo. Perhaps a bit selfish, and I admit, I can't empathise with women at all for keeping kids at this age. You simply don't get kids before 30 imo.

I've had this discussion with many girls of my age and indeed, they're pretty much all in ''I'd never abort'' camp. 2-3 weeks is not a living baby imho. I was always surprised how they let their emotions lead them.
"what if I kept that child... what would they look/sound/be like now...." and have that haunting me forever.
That is indeed a tough point.

Again, this is coming from someone who does everything to keep his freedom, doesn't like responsibilities ( except when paid for it) and I'm a bit immature still in my view on life.
 
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Before I had children, I always considered that an abortion would be an option in an unwanted pregnancy.

Now that I have kids, the thought absolutely repulses me and I can't imagine ever choosing that option if we have an unplanned pregnancy in future.
 
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