Alex Salmond: A second Scottish referendum is inevitible

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Plus a lot of the older generation grew up when being part of UK was something to be proud of. In their minds that is the way it still is. The reality is though that the UK is a broken entity, ruled by the rich for the benefit of the rich. In England you have a choice between two different shades of right wing (Corbyn won't around long enough to change that). The younger generation in Scotland can see all this and have said, **** that.
 
The_Abyss said:
Then wait. And let the younger generations grow in experience too.

Generalising older people as more easily mislead and easier to take advantage of is abhorent and discriminatory. You should be ashamed.
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You don't really grow out of wanting self determination for your country. Plus none of the younger generations will have pensions (not like today's older generations anyway) to be threatened with losing.

I couldn't give a **** if you think I should be ashamed. I am not. Older people are easier to mislead and take advantage of. That is a fact.
 
Elixir said:
The older generation are easier to mislead and take advantage in the world of politics than 16-17 year olds? Give it a rest.
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I think that is correct. 16 - 17 year olds are masters of the internet. They get a broad range of information from both sides of the argument and overwhelmingly chose YES unlike the older generation who passively absorb whatever the BBC and unionist press tell them.

Of course there are a few of the older generation who are active internet users. I am willing to bet that most of the older generation internet users voted YES.
 
lovelyhead said:
You don't really grow out of wanting self determination for your country. Plus none of the younger generations will have pensions (not like today's older generations anyway) to be threatened with losing.
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You grow out of voting for a particular political stance because it's fun to go and party in the streets and sing the Proclaimers.
 
lovelyhead said:
You don't really grow out of wanting self determination for your country. Plus none of the younger generations will have pensions (not like today's older generations anyway) to be threatened with losing.

I couldn't give a **** if you think I should be ashamed. I am not. Older people are easier to mislead and take advantage of. That is a fact.
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Shame on you. Whatever your other views you're an ageist and that is utterly repugnant. I hope there's someone more empathetic than you in power when you reach an age at which you currently consider inferior.
 
Elixir said:
You grow out of voting for a particular political stance because it's fun to go and party in the streets and sing the Proclaimers.
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The vast majority of YES voters weren't out parting on the streets. Don't talk tripe. They were normal people who most probably took very little to do with campaigning. The only thing most YES voters did was turn up to vote on the day.

The_Abyss said:
Shame on you. Whatever your other views you're an ageist and that is utterly repugnant. I hope there's someone more empathetic than you in power when you reach an age at which you currently consider inferior.
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Away and boil yer heed. I am saying no such thing. You are rapidly headed towards my ignore list as you are not actually reading what I am writing.
 
The_Abyss said:
Breathtaking. Social marginalisation akin to social cleansing. Their voice isn't relevant because someone else wants something different?

Your attitude towards older people is both belittling and disgusting. And is a well trodden path taken by historic nationalist movements. Utterly repulsive.
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Correct, it is utterly disgusting. I see it on an almost daily basis on facebook with things like "it's just a matter of demographics", as in hurry up and die so we can have a majority for what we want.

Failing to also realise that as others get older and have more life experience, jobs, mortgages and children of their own that they may also move from yes to no!
 
lovelyhead said:
Away and boil yer heed. I am saying no such thing. You are rapidly headed towards my ignore list as you are not actually reading what I am writing.
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I'm reading exactly what you're writing. You're writing that the views of older people are worth less than those of others because they don't share the same views as you, and you're trying to use the justification that they're more easily misled and have poorer judgement simply because of their age.

That's a horrific position as history has shown. Feel free to add to ignore though, as you've clearly already chosen to ignore the views of so many others already. I wonder who's next.

Disgusting.
 
The_Abyss said:
I'm reading exactly what you're writing. You're writing that the views of older people are worth less than those of others because they don't share the same views as you, and you're trying to use the justification that they're more easily misled and have poorer judgement simply because of their age.

That's a horrific position as history has shown. Feel free to add to ignore though, as you've clearly already chosen to ignore the views of so many others already. I wonder who's next.

Disgusting.
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You should write for the Daily Mail. You have nailed hyperbole. You should get your CV in!
 
lovelyhead said:
Because they are stopping the younger generations from getting what a majority of them want.

I am sure it isn't malicious on their part but the end result is the same. It is understandable as older people are more easily mislead and taken advantage of. They also don't have the full range of information available to them unlike younger generations. They tend to form all of their views from what the BBC and the Daily Record tells them. Kudos to the 27% of them that saw through the fear mongering and voted to give the young a better chance in life.

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Those numbers don't look right to me I don't buy the big differential between 16-17 and 18-24 with a better/another sample I'd bet on both categories being closer to 50/50.

Neither do I buy them seeing through politics at that age - in general the larger majority of people don't tend to have their heads around it until 30-35+.
 
Rroff said:
Those numbers don't look right to me I don't buy the big differential between 16-17 and 18-24 with a better/another sample I'd bet on both categories being closer to 50/50.

Neither do I buy them seeing through politics at that age - in general the larger majority of people don't tend to have their heads around it until 30-35+.
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I suppose if you are that age you are still at School and are able to talk with people your own age about which way you are voting. Maybe voting YES was seen as the cool thing to do. Who knows. Either way it is clear that once you start hitting retirement age you are far more likely to vote NO.
 
lovelyhead said:
I suppose if you are that age you are still at School and are able to talk with people your own age about which way you are voting. Maybe voting YES was seen as the cool thing to do. Who knows. Either way it is clear that once you start hitting retirement age you are far more likely to vote NO.
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Age has nothing to do with it. Nothing. It is experience of what you've lived through. Experience can come in a week, a month, a year or a lifetime. But it is unique to a person and their own circumstances.

This continued rejection of the views of older people in favour of others is completely offensive.
 
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