Abortion/termination - anyone ever had one?

Green TVR - that is probably the BEST 1st post I have seen on these forums - welcome !

The only balance I would like to add is that whilst it is a very hard choice to make. Being an unwanted child is also very damaging to that child.
 
Thanks Hodders. I know what you mean but my experience is that you reject the idea of the pregnancy or a child in the abstract. Once they are born you accept and love that individual baby. That's what happened to us. We didn't like the idea of a child, but didn't reject our daughter once she was here. Her dad feels quite ashamed of how he freaked out for 9 months. He idolises children and babies now.

Think you'd have to be a complete pyscho (and OP seems a nice enough chap) to make life miserable for a child. I know there are some vile individuals out there who abuse their kids but they are the exception thankfully.
 
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The last few posts have proved it's clearly subjective and only the couple in question can decide between them the right course of action. Some people can move on after an abortion, some people cannot. Of course those people who have kids already will tell you to keep it.

Only the pair of you will know and you'll both work it out together by talking it through.
 
The last few posts have proved it's clearly subjective and only the couple in question can decide between them the right course of action. Some people can move on after an abortion, some people cannot. Of course those people who have kids already will tell you to keep it.

Only the pair of you will know and you'll both work it out together by talking it through.

Pretty much this...

I was in a similar situation. I was on my 3rd year at uni (placement, so one year to go), and found out my girlfriend of 5 years was pregnant.

I wasn't a big fan of children (I'm still not, except my own), and I would have happily never have had children. When she told me over the phone (I lived 100 miles away at the time) I was drunk, and immediately burst out with "we're not going to keep it are we?"

I ended up travelling down to see her so we could work things out, I was absolutely terrified. The baby was due to be born in the January of my final year, smack bang in the middle of my dissertation and a couple of months before final year exams.

I'm not really sure what happened but we kept the baby (I've no doubt she never would have had an abortion any way), and I couldn't be happier with the outcome. I can honestly say she is one of the best things that has ever happened to me, and even though she's only 2 and a half, we have a relationship I didn't even realise was possible.

Good luck with your choice, feel free to trust me if you want to chat about having kids whilst at uni.

H
 


Thank you, what a brilliant post. I'd like to show her this post but you're right I think all the GF-hating might just scare/**** her off even more!

I managed to speak to her face-to-face last night and whilst she assured me she is still going ahead with the termination a little bit of her doesn't want to do it and she still wants to keep the baby.

She doesn't think that my 'freaking out' on monday was the behaviour of a normal person apparently and someone would never think like that about their own child. Because on monday, I'll admit I was pretty set on abortion, I couldn't see it working due to all things previously mentioned and I told her I didn't want unnecessary stress on the relationship after we've been going so great recently, I said I didn't want it to come in the way of Uni/career goals because obviously Im going to want to be around baby and she'll need my help, especially early on. I also didn't see how it could work financially if she was to be taking a year off work on maternity on reduced pay because my wage wouldn't cover her mortgage and pay for my car petrol to uni everyday because Im no longer living in the city, plus the general upkeep of a house and 2 children.

We did the test a week ago today, on the friday night before she left my house as I was getting concerned and persuaded her to go and get one, which looking back now was the wrong time to do it as we couldn't discuss it properly. I told her I didn't know how I was feeling on Friday night, a mixture of happy, scared and worried. Saturday and Sunday I was at work and we could only communicate over texts and such like and I told her I was happy (which I genuinely was) and because she seemed so happy too. But I never at any point said 'we are definitely keeping this baby' or anything like that.

However as I started to think about the situation more and more, I began panicking more and more - which is when I mentioned the abortion to her on Monday. But because I have now 'changed my mind again' even though I said I needed a few days to go away and think by myself about it as I wasn't sure (after hearing her solutions/work arounds), she reckons that Im too 'unstable' to have a child/be in a relationship with her and she'd always be waiting for me to "change my mind again" because I've told her not to go through with the abortion now, and that I will find a way to make it work.

I understand her emotions will be running high but not sure how I can make her see that Im set in my decision and that I couldn't just make a snap decision like that in the first place as I was in shock and needed to think about it as it is a massive massive lifestyle change for me? Ive tried telling her but its like she doesn't understand it from my point of view, maybe its because she already has a child and when she got pregnant with that child she was in a loving marriage.. ?

I already know that Im going to regret every decision that lead to this point if she does go through with the abortion, I know she will too because I know how much she wanted a baby even though we agreed to wait. I understand she must be hurting so much inside right now but she won't let me help her.

Thanks again for your post, its nice to have a woman perspective on it too.
 
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I think you have to find a way of assuring her that your freaking out was a completely normal reaction.

You have to get through to her that it wasn't your child you were rejecting but the IDEA of a child, an abstract one. You have never had a baby before (dunno what your experience of babies is) and therefore you were really worried and couldn't see it working and thought that maybe abortion was the best thing in the circumstances. You weren't actually thinking about what abortion means for you, her and the baby. It wasn't what you had planned so you were looking for what seemed like the best and easiest solution. It doesn't make you some kind of unfeeling monster.

Your initial reaction of happiness says lots. It was instinctive, but naturally when you thought through all the implications you began to panic. That is so completely normal. I think because you didn't initially freak, she completely misread the situation, had you instantaneously gone "OMG, what are we going to do, Nightmare on Elm Street" then it would have been different. As things began to sink in and the implications of what a child means, you began to worry.

Usually, when a woman presents with a positive pregnancy test at a Family Planning Centre, if she is adamant that she wants an abortion, best clinical practice is to tell her to go away and think about it for a week. You haven't had long enough to let this sink in. A week is a pretty short space of time and you are not being unstable. It shows that you trust her enough to share your deepest feelings, worries and anxieties about it with her. This is what happens in relationships. You make yourself vulnerable to another.

Being a human means being subject to human emotions, you can't turn them on and off like a tap and neither can you just respond the perfect way to everything. I tell you I was treated a lot worse than your GF when it happened to me and the only way I managed to forgive was to understand that his reaction was not voluntary - he was genuinely ****ing his pants at the prospect of having a baby. And it wasn't his daughter he was rejecting, merely the idea of a demanding baby.

Please read the rules and fully star out all swearing in future. Thank you.

Wish I could talk to her and help her see that your reaction is mild by comparison. She wouldn't always be waiting for you to change your mind because by the time she gets to 20 weeks it's a done deal, the NHS won't touch you with a bargepole re abortion unless God forbid, there's something terribly wrong. She has to put your former reaction to one side and focus on what you and she want now.

Also you say she's 2-3 weeks pregnant, that translates into 5-6 weeks in pregnancy terms. The pregnancy is always dated for clinical reasons from the first day of your last period. (Yes it's odd, it means that most women are always technically 2 weeks pregnant when they ovulate, but that's how they do it). If you look up the development of your baby, you'll see the heart starts beating from this point. Until the placenta kicks in at about 12 weeks, she's likely to be exhausted, feeling pretty sick and generally just bleurgh. The reaction she's having isn't rational. She can't hold some understandable initial panic against you, this is a massive thing that is going to change your life forever. For the better though trust me. :cool:
 
I already know that Im going to regret every decision that lead to this point if she does go through with the abortion, I know she will too because I know how much she wanted a baby even though we agreed to wait.

The big problem you have, from reading your posts; is for you this decision has been all about you.

For her it will be about the baby.

You have come at this from poles apart and as your relationship didn't sound rock solid, you may not have the foundation to rationalise through it collectively.

Being a parent, she knows first hand the potential for life she will be terminating. As this seems purely for convenience the trauma of this will be increased. You will never quite understand the loss in the same way she can visualise it by simply imagining if her current child wasnt there due to something she did.
 
Right so the condom split and she took the morning after pill and still got pregnant... and she wasn't on any other brith control?
 
I think you have to find a way of assuring her that your freaking out was a completely normal reaction.

You have to get through to her that it wasn't your child you were rejecting but the IDEA of a child, an abstract one. You have never had a baby before (dunno what your experience of babies is) and therefore you were really worried and couldn't see it working and thought that maybe abortion was the best thing in the circumstances. You weren't actually thinking about what abortion means for you, her and the baby. It wasn't what you had planned so you were looking for what seemed like the best and easiest solution. It doesn't make you some kind of unfeeling monster.

Your initial reaction of happiness says lots. It was instinctive, but naturally when you thought through all the implications you began to panic. That is so completely normal. I think because you didn't initially freak, she completely misread the situation, had you instantaneously gone "OMG, what are we going to do, Nightmare on Elm Street" then it would have been different. As things began to sink in and the implications of what a child means, you began to worry.

Usually, when a woman presents with a positive pregnancy test at a Family Planning Centre, if she is adamant that she wants an abortion, best clinical practice is to tell her to go away and think about it for a week. You haven't had long enough to let this sink in. A week is a pretty short space of time and you are not being unstable. It shows that you trust her enough to share your deepest feelings, worries and anxieties about it with her. This is what happens in relationships. You make yourself vulnerable to another.

Being a human means being subject to human emotions, you can't turn them on and off like a tap and neither can you just respond the perfect way to everything. I tell you I was treated a lot worse than your GF when it happened to me and the only way I managed to forgive was to understand that his reaction was not voluntary - he was genuinely ****ing his pants at the prospect of having a baby. And it wasn't his daughter he was rejecting, merely the idea of a demanding baby.

Wish I could talk to her and help her see that your reaction is mild by comparison. She wouldn't always be waiting for you to change your mind because by the time she gets to 20 weeks it's a done deal, the NHS won't touch you with a bargepole re abortion unless God forbid, there's something terribly wrong. She has to put your former reaction to one side and focus on what you and she want now.

Also you say she's 2-3 weeks pregnant, that translates into 5-6 weeks in pregnancy terms. The pregnancy is always dated for clinical reasons from the first day of your last period. (Yes it's odd, it means that most women are always technically 2 weeks pregnant when they ovulate, but that's how they do it). If you look up the development of your baby, you'll see the heart starts beating from this point. Until the placenta kicks in at about 12 weeks, she's likely to be exhausted, feeling pretty sick and generally just bleurgh. The reaction she's having isn't rational. She can't hold some understandable initial panic against you, this is a massive thing that is going to change your life forever. For the better though trust me. :cool:

Thanks again for your insight, you manage to put it into words much better than I do. Yes at the time I wasn't thinking of it as MY baby, it was just a baby.. if that makes sense but as I've come to the realisation of what this actually is, I have made my own mind up.

Yes initial reactions were happy and she knows that, in fact she sort of used that against me of how I could have gone from being so happy to then freaking out and wanting an abortion, her argument for me being unstable. I don't think she understands that in the time period from us doing the first test and then to us actually speaking, I had a lot of time to think... and alone. You start thinking about things, then you think about them again, then you overthink them... and it just continues because you cant chat about it with anyone.

She wouldn't be waiting for me to change my mind anyways, regardless of if she was 20 weeks or not as my mind is firmly made up now I've heard all sides of the story and how it effects people from the guys on here. I just cant make her understand that.

If she would agree, would you mind speaking to her? I would appreciate it a lot and I imagine she would, even if she doesn't realise it at first and still decides to go ahead with the termination anyways.
 
I feel for you mate and I have very mixed feelings about abortion.
You don't need to hear them.

But if she wants to keep it you just going to have to live with it. :(

**** happens then there is life. ;)

You get a good kid you will never ever regret it, no matter what your position is financially or career wise. :)
 
Just checking back. Yes I'd be happy to talk to her. Honestly freaking out in the early stages is way more common than she imagines.

Thank you so much. I cannot send you a private 'trust' message though as it says you have not yet activated this on your account so that I can email you directly.

If you can activate this and then I can send you a message to exchange contact details or you send me a message?

Im not sure which friend on this forum directed you to this thread but maybe they can put us in contact? Thanks!

Danny.
 
Nice to see a thread in G.D. not get derailed by the pasty smash/burn it with fire brigade.

Hope it all works out for the best for all concerned.
 
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