Petition - What to do

scotty365

scotty365

scotty365

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Hi folks,
There are plans to build a young offenders 'halfway house' in a elderly sheltered housing area. The elderly residents are opposed to the plans and have made a petition. My question is - should they hand in a photocopy of the petition or give the original? A copy will be made anyway. The petition will be handed to the council planning department. This whole thing has been dealt with rather underhanded by not informing residents of the actual nature of the building rather stating the want to build flats. People have found out and they are worried.
Regards
Scotty
 
Is a bit off!

Sticking people who may well have histories of mugging and robberies bang in the middle of elderly vulnerable people. What bright spark thought that one through?
 
Surely they have to state the intention that he building is going to be used for? If they have neglected to tell you that or changed it's purpose then get the petition and personally deliver it to your local MP. Either that or get some cocktails together ;)
 
Twirlywoos said:
Surely they have to state the intention that he building is going to be used for? If they have neglected to tell you that or changed it's purpose then get the petition and personally deliver it to your local MP. Either that or get some cocktails together ;)
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I like these ideas
 
Twirlywoos said:
Surely they have to state the intention that he building is going to be used for? If they have neglected to tell you that or changed it's purpose then get the petition and personally deliver it to your local MP. Either that or get some cocktails together ;)
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Okay I'll give the details,
The council posted 2 A4 piece of paper up stating they wanted to build 12 flats.
The council send notice to 2 houses of the same A4 piece of paper.
The local paper (dont know where it was initiated) posted a advert in the local paper stating that they wanted to build a house that had 12 rooms for supporting vulnerable young adults.
One of the neighbours said they read that it was for young offenders on some article on the internet, and my mother heared about it - next thing she made many many many phone calls until someone gave her a URL to the council webpage that contained 'all' the information.
At this point she cannot open any of the content and draughts me in as the resident dogs body on all things computer related. I pop around and print off many pages of plans and council bumpf - BOOM the penny drops and within 24 hours the entire neighbourhood (which is ~60% elderly) decides to make a move with 5 days left of the 21 day deadline. The petition follows in haste.
T minus 1 day - and the neighbours are wanting more petition print outs because they are all full.

So tommorrow they want to deliver it to the town planning office. In the interim the local councillor got wind of this and held a meeting (on a saturday) to calm any fears - he denied any knowledge of the project and then later admitted he went to 2 meetings about it!! He was quickly dismissed as one of the council cronies involved with getting this through under the residents noses.

So I wonder what is the best action? Send the original and keep a copy or send only a copy. I just wonder if a copy will not count as sufficient evidence.

Regards
Scotty
 
Oh and to clarify things a little more - there are 2 other existing buildings that they want to house 15 residents in. The new building that has 12 rooms that are actually double rooms so that is an additional 24 residents - 39 in total - they never stated that either in anything other than the URL my mom got. Almost everyone could not get the website to work (they were PDF files but they would only work if fully updated and if you clicked in the right place)
 
I just love the use of the word nimby by people completely outside the problem. It's almost like reverse nimbyism as these idiots are effectively iybys (can't find enough vowels).

Should everyone just put up with whatever the government or local council decides to put up right next to their house? Yeah, no.
 
scotty365 said:
Oh and to clarify things a little more - there are 2 other existing buildings that they want to house 15 residents in. The new building that has 12 rooms that are actually double rooms so that is an additional 24 residents - 39 in total - they never stated that either in anything other than the URL my mom got. Almost everyone could not get the website to work (they were PDF files but they would only work if fully updated and if you clicked in the right place)
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Where about is this being built?


Oh an what's a NIMBY?
 
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If they already own two buildings and a development site its clear they have been planning this for a while...
60% elderly is probably average in most residential areas tbh - I'm not sure where you expect these people to be housed, would they be better in an area with loads of kids? If you can come up with a valid objection based well researched facts - if your objection is based purely on not wanting people in need to be housed nearby then it is really just nimbyism which is likely to not get you far in a case like this
 
wordy said:
Oh an what's a NIMBY?
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Not In My Back Yard.

The kind of people that feel entitled, or better than the rest of us.

They want offenders to be rehabilitated, just not in their town.
They want power, but no powerstations near their town.
They want clean water, but no waste water plants near them.
 
Woden said:
Not In My Back Yard.

The kind of people that feel entitled, or better than the rest of us.

They want offenders to be rehabilitated, just not in their town.
They want power, but no powerstations near their town.
They want clean water, but no waste water plants near them.
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Thanks.



TBF I wouldn't want a halfway house for young offenders near me either, I think you'd struggle to find anyone who would.
 
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