How far is this VW thing going to go?

Despite driving a diesel I generally do not like them am therefore not biased towards them or in any way trying to justify my purchase - however the 25k thing is nonsense, the break even point is far lower, especially if you are buying newer cars. With older cars when reliability becomes very important the breakeven point increases.
 
DPF is nothing to do with NOX afaik, it for carbon particles? so stop diesel plume? Thus removing them leaves your vehicle generating much more particulate waste than it should.
Is this not the case?

Never said it was. It's one of the major parts of a diesel system that suffers problems and thus increases costs however. Yup much more particulate waste when they're removed.
It's also an m.o.t failure unless you know a less then honest examiner!
 
The diesel taxi's (Private hire) here in Peterborough either have had stage 2 remaps or the DPF removed.

You wouldn't believe the crap they belch out !
 
Never said it was. It's one of the major parts of a diesel system that suffers problems and thus increases costs however. Yup much more particulate waste when they're removed.
It's also an m.o.t failure unless you know a less then honest examiner!

ah sorry, talking at crossed purposes then, yes indeed a saving on cost if it breaks remove it, or simply remove it first
 
genuine question:

spec me a petrol estate that does 50mpg+, capable of doing 400miles+/week and isnt completely gutless (with and without a load).

Golf GT Estate, 1.4 TSi
Power: 150bhp
0-60 : 8.6 secs
Combined mpg : 55.4
Boot : 605 litres with rear seats up
 
Golf GT Estate, 1.4 TSi
Power: 150bhp
0-60 : 8.6 secs
Combined mpg : 55.4
Boot : 605 litres with rear seats up

Huh, my BMW X3 does 50+mpg (verified, many times), 2.0L diesel, 184bhp, and same 0-60 (8.5s), is AWD and I can park the Golf in the boot...
 
Diesel cars need to die fast.

I have had one diesel car a Zafira and never ever again. DPF filter went on it and it cost £1200 to fix and **** load of EMU resets. :mad:

Lucky I knew a guy from Vauxhalls to sort it. Petrol all the way for me from now on.

My mate just got a brand new Ford Kuga and he said the sales man was trying to push for the eco diesel crap. :confused:

If VW at it they all at it, this green Eco crap is all rubbish.

We get about 35-38 MPG in a 8 year old petrol 1.8 Vtech Honda, works out at around 8 miles to the pound. Cheaper than a portion of chips ! :p
 
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I do about 300 miles a week, mostly motorway, I average 60mpg, 64 for motorway driving, this is in a seat Ibiza 1.2 ecotec, more up front (approx. 1k over petrol version...bought it at 1 year old) but is saving me a fortune overall in my opinion, lovely motor with enough poke to do 80, nippy around town etc, don't get the diesel hate
 
I do about 300 miles a week, mostly motorway, I average 60mpg, 64 for motorway driving, this is in a seat Ibiza 1.2 ecotec, more up front (approx. 1k over petrol version...bought it at 1 year old) but is saving me a fortune overall in my opinion, lovely motor with enough poke to do 80, nippy around town etc, don't get the diesel hate

is that 1.2tsi or 1.2tdi?
 
Huh, my BMW X3 does 50+mpg (verified, many times), 2.0L diesel, 184bhp, and same 0-60 (8.5s), is AWD and I can park the Golf in the boot...

And its probably faking its emissions as well :P

In fact guaranteed, the group who discovered the VW issue said they tested a x3 and it was 40 times worse than the VW result................
 
I do about 300 miles a week, mostly motorway, I average 60mpg, 64 for motorway driving, this is in a seat Ibiza 1.2 ecotec, more up front (approx. 1k over petrol version...bought it at 1 year old) but is saving me a fortune overall in my opinion, lovely motor with enough poke to do 80, nippy around town etc, don't get the diesel hate

Fine that's good for you, deisels with DPF filters need to be burnt on motorways. But around town they are ****ing useless and clog, break etc in the end. :mad:

As for a 1.2 ecotec having poke??? :confused:

I doubt it could take my eye out mate! :p
 
Fine that's good for you, deisels with DPF filters need to be burnt on motorways. But around town they are ****ing useless and clog, break etc in the end. :mad:

As for a 1.2 ecotec having poke??? :confused:

I doubt it could take my eye out mate! :p

Everything with a horrible gutless engine has "poke" and is "nippy" according to some people.
 
I quite like the diesel power delivery, especially in a decent size engine and smooth autobox.

my RR Sport gets a slightly higher average mpg than my previous 1.6 petrol Focus. Combination of engine and box means I just have loads or torque all the time, and whatever the numbers say, it's torque that you 'feel' not bhp (unless on a track going for lap times!)
 
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