10 dead in a US college shooting
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Sorry it was just a comment I thought I a child would make, because it looks like you think the IRA etc went ahead and purchased the firearms they used legally.
Here I can own any handgun I want and it's brilliant.
You seemed to suggest that due to being able to own a handgun in NI it was a factor in the troubles.
given that the typical legally owned gun is more likely going to kill a member of the gun owners family than an intruder even just some basic legal requirements re: storage would cut deaths significantly... like requiring them to store firearms in a secure gun cabinet and store ammunition seperately
Ahh someone who isn't anti gun. In NI if you want to own a firearm whether it be a handgun or shotgun etc the PSNI will come to your house to make sure that you have the correct storage in place and that it's fixed to the wall. Not sure if that applies to the mainland or not.
Also here if you go to the doctor and even say your feeling depressed the police will be at your door not long after to remove any registered guns in your name.
Doing this in the states would take some man power of course, but would cut deaths like dowie talks about.
Knew someone in the prison service who had to go out to several calls of prison service personnel that had got boozed up and either threatened to top themselves with their PPW, or threatened to shoot someone else. One of the guys in the nick was a squaddy who'd got liquored up and shot his ex-wife's new boyfriend dead and was serving a life sentence.
Wasn't uncommon for staff to get their own weapon either, instead of being provided one by the service. So you had boys taking the **** with Dirty Harry style hand cannons.
Whereas my dad just had his Ruger Security Six which was RUC issue and he didn't like semi automatics. My mum's boyfriend on the other hand used a Browning Hi-Power (horrible thing that didn't like to be fired too quickly or it would jam, as I learnt the first time I tried to empty it quickly).
Different times then being a guard and no doubt they wanted to keep that under wraps.
But for the normal folks going to the doctor and saying that gets your guns removed.
My point is OhEsEcks NI is full of legally owned guns and no one goes on killing sprees here but there are at least good controls in place. I don't understand why there is so much hate for guns as they are a lot of fun.
From a quick google as of 2012 there was 160k registered guns in NI.
I grew up with a handgun in a safe at the bottom of our room, I remember one night my uncle got it out and let off some thunder rounds? They basically were regular blank rounds that made one hell of a bang rofl?
That had the whole street out. I think he was given money to trade it in and did so the numbers are shrinking now compared to the early 90's and the troubles. Back then you needed it though our tiny village saw three gun attacks on ex forces lol.
That had the whole street out. I think he was given money to trade it in and did so the numbers are shrinking now compared to the early 90's and the troubles. Back then you needed it though our tiny village saw three gun attacks on ex forces lol.
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Ohhhhh how terrible, a small bunch of people lost a hobby, my heart bleeds!
Try losing your child because that's what 16 mothers, fathers, brothers and sisters had to accept on what WAS a truly ''Sad Sad day''
LAWL
I suggest you research stuff before posting, it will help you look less ignorant and foolish !!
NI averaging one gun crime a day in 2015
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Millions of Americans responsibly own guns. A microscopic fraction commit massacres. Emotional knee jerk responses are exactly what they want so they can guilt people into handing over their weapons, just like they did in the UK. "WON'T ANYBODY THINK OF THE CHILDREN!" fallacy.
Well Obama doesn't agree with you, in his live reaction to this it was great to hear him say things like "The amount of guns in the US equates to one for every man, woman and child, how can anyone say more guns are what we need to be safe and keep a straight face"
Also, polling shows the majority of Americans are in favour of more restrictions. Maybe it seems they are coming round to seeing sense, now just to defeat the lobbyists and business (money) interests.
https://youtu.be/dZpB1ONbZ6M
He says a lot of sense
Considering what his government, and previous governments have been responsible for, he's also a hypocrite of the highest order whose opinion on the matter is worthless when he's sanctioning bombing raids that take out generations of entire families in one swoop and write it off as "collateral damage".
I'm not sure we can equate foreign policy actions within war zones with domestic gun policy....
Right, because only dead American children matter.
AND has the cheek to start dribbling on about fallacies and hypocrisy
I see you don't have a decent response to the use of the using the appeal to emotion fallacy of "won't anyone think of the children".
And while you're talking about NI gun crime, what's England's gun crime statistics like where guns are illegal?
http://www.citizensreportuk.org/reports/murders-fatal-violence-uk.html
Oh....
*sigh* err, No
Obama is a hypocrite when he's shedding crocodile tears for dead Americans and then signing off on the murder of children overseas. It's that simple. You can argue the ******** point of it being foreign / domestic policy. But the end result is the same. Indiscriminate murder of children. The day I take a morality lecture on gun violence from the leader of the US military industrial complex will be the day hell freezes over.
Can you actually read ???
We have a lower homicide rate than NI and of that lower rate ONLY 6% is committed with firearms. Conveniently NI don't seem to release gun stats but given the problem they have with guns over their at the moment I'm willing to bet that significantly more than 6% of their higher homicide rates is commited with guns!