10 dead in a US college shooting

Freakbro said:
Well Obama doesn't agree with you, in his live reaction to this it was great to hear him say things like "The amount of guns in the US equates to one for every man, woman and child, how can anyone say more guns are what we need to be safe and keep a straight face"

Also, polling shows the majority of Americans are in favour of more restrictions. Maybe it seems they are coming round to seeing sense, now just to defeat the lobbyists and business (money) interests.

https://youtu.be/dZpB1ONbZ6M


He says a lot of sense
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He talks perfect sense, only he is in no position to make such a change unfortunately. The most powerful man in the world, only without any actual power to pass any change.
 
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They should be illegal. I have never fired a gun and shooting one does seem like fun but for the sake of a hobby I would rather people weren't getting killed.

There are a lot of guns in the USA and getting rid of them all wouldn't be easy and the criminals are likely to be the ones getting rid of them last but it should still be done but it isn't going to be easy.
 
Seems pretty damn twisted to want to be remembered as a mass murderer. I wonder what this guys story is gonna turn out to be?

What a horrible incident :(
 
HybridX said:
This happened with the pistol ban in the UK, overnight hundreds of thousands of pounds of pistols became illegal. Thousands of people lost a small fortune and the number of shooting clubs and facilities in the UK pretty much halved.

Sad Sad day
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This

I had one of the air cartridge revolvers before they were banned, when the ban came in I was just coming up to my 18th birthday and wasn't working full time.

As a result of the lack of income, I couldn't justify the cost of fitting a gun cabinet into my parents house, applying for the license and the gun club where I had been shooting for the last 5 years wasn't a registered pistol range and meant I couldn't use it there, therefore I handed it in to the local police station on the day of the ban and that was that.

That was one of the most unique bits of kit I have ever owned, and I gave it up in the name of supporting the law.

Few months later and I was at a triathlon with my younger sister who was shooting pistol as part of the competition and saw a few people using the air cartridge revolvers in the competition, the local instructor for the club was a full time policeman and when I asked him if they were allowed to use unregistered section 5 pistols (none of them were registered, I had checked) his response was 'no one cares'.

There was at least 3-5 'illegal' (barely, its an airgun) guns being used in competition under supervision of a serving policeman, and nothing was said.

I do think America requires stricter gun control, but clearing them off the streets will be impossible.
 
Any American President that tries to enforce wide scale gun restrictions will find themselves getting the Kennedy treatment.

Too much money riding on it backed up by an element of uncaring powerful people.

The attitude to life and death over there is unusual.
 
HybridX said:
This happened with the pistol ban in the UK, overnight hundreds of thousands of pounds of pistols became illegal. Thousands of people lost a small fortune and the number of shooting clubs and facilities in the UK pretty much halved.

Sad Sad day
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So legislation to remove lethal weapons from the general populace was a 'sad sad day'?
Personally I think it showed the UK at its very best.
 
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So some of the arguments for not controlling guns are:

I would be hard to do, nothing worth doing is easy.
It would be expensive, yes but a drop in the ocean of the US budget.
America do worse in wars. Since when has lowering the bar of what is acceptable been a legitimate justification for something?
We're just catering for the lunatics by doing so, watch Jim Jeffries on gun control and his but about drugs and speeding especially.
It's cultural, lots of things were part of our culture that have since become socially unacceptable.

I'm not anti guns btw, I enjoy shooting. I also enjoy driving very fast but recognise that my hobby is dangerous to others and so there has to be some sort of restriction on how and where I do that.
 
Columbo said:
So legislation to remove lethal weapons from the general populace was a 'sad sad day'?
Personally I think it showed the UK at its very best.
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Two complete failures of the police to confiscate weapons from individuals that had proven unfit to posses them on multiple occasions and knee jerk reactions from government was "the UK at its very best"?
 
Seems like this guy was some sort of atheist terrorist, asking his victims if they were Christians and only shooting them if they said yes :(
 
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