Alex Salmond: A second Scottish referendum is inevitible

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Uther said:
Why are the Conservatives increasing their vote share in Scotland? :confused:
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Because they are one of only two effective parties up here?

And because the Scottish Conservatives are not a bunch of English toffs. Ruth Davidson is one of my favourite politicians in Holyrood (albeit I haven't voted for her party yet) and a kickboxing lesbian from Buckhaven High is about as far from the Eton/Oxford old boys club as you can get...
 
grumpysculler said:
Because they are one of only two effective parties up here?

And because the Scottish Conservatives are not a bunch of English toffs. Ruth Davidson is one of my favourite politicians in Holyrood (albeit I haven't voted for her party yet) and a kickboxing lesbian from Buckhaven High is about as far from the Eton/Oxford old boys club as you can get...
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To call the Tories an effective party is interesting. As far as I can tell the only thing they have been effective at is not winning seats at elections!

Even their leader, wee mad tank commander Ruthie, can hardly claim to be a winner. She was second on the Tories region list and was only promoted to first in the list because of dodgyness from first place Malcolm McCaskill.

During the actual election she finished a distant 4th and only won a seat from the Glasgow region list.

And that is the leader of the Scottish conservatives.

The only folk that vote for the Tories up here are well to do, I'm all right jack folk, toffs, farmers and the English.
 
Jeezo, you sure can make sweeping generalisations can't you.

I'm not exactly well to do, although I do ok. I'm certainly no toff, no farmer and not English. Yet I still vote tory simply because I prefer less taxes and a smaller state. Simples.

Just the same as I could say that all SNP supporters are in-bred, third generation brew monkeys, undereducated or mad nationalists. Oh wait...
 
xs2man said:
Jeezo, you sure can make sweeping generalisations can't you.

I'm not exactly well to do, although I do ok. I'm certainly no toff, no farmer and not English. Yet I still vote tory simply because I prefer less taxes and a smaller state. Simples.

Just the same as I could say that all SNP supporters are in-bred, third generation brew monkeys, undereducated or mad nationalists. Oh wait...
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You must fall into the "I'm all right jack" category then.
 
The funny thing is he's got less chance of getting a referendum and then winning it in the next 10 years than Biohazrard had previously. Look at Bio's old posts and he'd have you believe (and to be fair lot more eloquently than this shill) that the vast majority of Scots were a seething mass of discontent preparing to cross the border and storm Westminster. We know how that supposed certainty turned out.

Unfortunately the fevered nationalists and to some extent SNP grasp on any kind of power is dependant of keeping alive the independence debate wherever they can rather than accepting the decision of Scots and getting on with life making a strong Scotland in the Union. Ironically I fully expect him to be sharing select posts from this thread with other Nat shills as proof of the disrespectful English unionists and a good example why Scotland should be free.

Bizzarley and somewhat counter intuitively the nats will try to create as much doubt and indecision about Scotlands future as possible to discourage investment in Scotland so they can then rail against Westminster betraying the Scottish people and how much better off Scotland will be on it's own without the dammed Welsh, English and Irish, even if it's to the detriment of Scots in the mean time. A true example by the political elites "I'm all right Jack" approach.

The upshot is this thread is pointless, baring some astounding unforeseen changes (and that's not the EU thing, Scots were clear they knew that was tory policy when they voted in the referendum and took that into account despite Lovelyhead trying to persuade us Scottish voters were too stupid to have thought of it) he's not going to get what he's demanding in the next 10 years or more. No one here is going to persuade him otherwise as his sole reason for posting here and other places is to try to ensure people don't put independence to one side for a generation and actually get on with a decent life. The last thing the Nats need now is a peaceful, prosperous content Scotland as their entire hold on power is based on supposed discontent with the status quo. The panic over trying to make a point about an exit of the EU to get another referendum is in large part a reflection of the economy recovering and as things get better their chances get slimmer so they have to throw the dice again before people actually notice.
 
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That was a nice little story but I am afraid it doesn't really chime with reality. If we are fighting just to stay relevant, why do all the opinion polls say we have made gains since the referendum (oh wait I have asked this before and the reason you in denial unionists gave was that No voters couldn't be bothered to take part in the polls)?

If we are fighting to stay relevant, why do all the opinion polls asking how soon should the next referendum be, say at most 10 years?

This thread is a little Englander / unionist enclave that is a big circle jerk. You think you are right because everyone else in this thread agrees with you. The thing is this thread is in no way representative of the Scottish peoples opinion on independence. If this thread were true to reality, every second users post would be pro independence!
 
platypus said:
"Saying" is a little much, you don't actually say anything.
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Deep insightful comment. Thanks for sharing.

xs2man said:
Not really. I'm in the pay less taxes camp. Pay less taxes, have more money for my family.
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Or another way of looking at it is "I earn loads of money and don't want to pay as much tax to perhaps help the less fortunate in society". As I said, the "I'm all right Jack" camp.

canman said:
Can you tell us your age please?
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That's a bit personal but I have nothing to hide. 31.

How about you? ASL?

ThePirateHulk said:
The irony here is that it is mainly non-Scottish unionists that have been demonstrating the xenophobia.
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I notice no one has attempted to deny it!
 
lovelyhead said:
That was a nice little story but I am afraid it doesn't really chime with reality. If we are fighting just to stay relevant, why do all the opinion polls say we have made gains since the referendum (oh wait I have asked this before and the reason you in denial unionists gave was that No voters couldn't be bothered to take part in the polls)?

If we are fighting to stay relevant, why do all the opinion polls asking how soon should the next referendum be, say at most 10 years?

This thread is a little Englander / unionist enclave that is a big circle jerk. You think you are right because everyone else in this thread agrees with you. The thing is this thread is in no way representative of the Scottish peoples opinion on independence. If this thread were true to reality, every second users post would be pro independence!
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Actually every 4.5 posts in 10 would be pro-independence! Get it up ye!
 
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