Cheated out of redunancy

anything I don't mind · 6 Oct 2015 at 15:27

A while back the company i work for was purchased by my new employer and i was tupe across. Few years later they offered redundancy to most people who they tupe across. I accepted it, nearly everyone got redundancy but myself who asked for it. I am not aware of anyone else who was turned down. Then few months later i resign and get a new job, only for them to send out a new email offering everyone redundancy again. So i ask if i am eligible for that and they say no because you have already resigned. Is that some kind of inside joke or has it got nothing to do with my situation and just happened that way? I know there is nothing i can do, it just seems unlucky on my part. Has this happened to anyone else and do i have any recourse that i have not thought of? I am not in a union. These are relatively big payouts, the one guy walked away with 24k and final months salary.

Josh · 6 Oct 2015 at 15:28

So you are trying to get a redundacy payoff for a job where you no longer work?

anything I don't mind · 6 Oct 2015 at 15:30

JOSH86 said:
So you are trying to get a redundacy payoff for a job where you no longer work?

I am still working my final month but have handed in my notice, the deadline for requesting redundancy is within my last month work.

I asked him, if i am not eligible why send me the email? His response was that he was too lazy to remove me and just sent it to everyone.

Mark3h · 6 Oct 2015 at 15:30

You handed in your notice before the redundancy was paid, found a new job.
This is unfortunately your mistake and any company would be rubbing their hands together at not having to pay out.

Take it on the chin and move on.

Housey · 6 Oct 2015 at 15:30

It's the way of the world, they don't have to 'offer' anyone redundancy and in turn if you resign all bets are off. You resigned.

tom_e · 6 Oct 2015 at 15:31

They're doing it purely to screw you over, the bosses were waiting until you handed your notice in to offer it again.

Hedge · 6 Oct 2015 at 15:32

Yeah thats very unlucky.

But at least you are still earning a wage so its no real issue overall.

anything I don't mind · 6 Oct 2015 at 15:33

Mark3h said:
You handed in your notice before the redundancy was paid, found a new job.
This is unfortunately your mistake and any company would be rubbing their hands together at not having to pay out.

Take it on the chin and move on.

I will move on. The point was 3 months ago i requested redundancy and was the only one who they refused, then i resigned and they offer it again and send me the email even when i am not eligible.

Housey · 6 Oct 2015 at 15:33

tom_e said:
They're doing it purely to screw you over, the bosses were waiting until you handed your notice in to offer it again.

I hear those that are staying get Wednesday to Friday off too, for the same money.

Josh · 6 Oct 2015 at 15:34

anything I don't mind said:
I am still working my final month but have handed in my notice, the deadline for requesting redundancy is within my last month work.

I asked him, if i am not eligible why send me the email? His response was that he was too lazy to remove me and just sent it to everyone.

ahh right sorry the timeline baffled me.

Seems like they have just saved a load of cash by you resigning then.

Unless there is some form of Employment Law case - I don't think you have a chance.

anything I don't mind · 6 Oct 2015 at 15:34

tom_e said:
They're doing it purely to screw you over, the bosses were waiting until you handed your notice in to offer it again.

I don't understand why they would do that though? They must have handed out over 300k in redundancies.

Housey · 6 Oct 2015 at 15:34

anything I don't mind said:
I will move on. The point was 3 months ago i requested redundancy and was the only one who they refused, then i resigned and they offer it again and send me the email even when i am not eligible.

You are just a statistic in a HR process and no one is gong to pay you money they don't have to.

Mark3h · 6 Oct 2015 at 15:35

A similar incident happened in our work, a lady handed in her notice, but stayed with us well past the date required for the yearly bonus. She handed her notice in end of March, worked until July, bonus was paid in June. Stayed working because of issues being caused by a 3rd party and moving house. As far as the business were concerned, she was already leaving so she got no yearly bonus.

Nobody was happy with how the business went about it, but they refused to budge on it.

tom_e · 6 Oct 2015 at 15:35

anything I don't mind said:
I don't understand why they would do that though? They must have handed out over 300k in redundancies.

There's nothing to understand my comment was tongue in cheek, unless you really really pee'd one of the bosses off it's just a simple case of bad luck on the timing.

Admiral Huddy · 6 Oct 2015 at 15:36

Mark3h said:
You handed in your notice before the redundancy was paid, found a new job.
This is unfortunately your mistake and any company would be rubbing their hands together at not having to pay out.

Take it on the chin and move on.

This and no other reason.. It's the reason I hung on for 3 years for a potential redundancy which didn't happen for me.

Spacedeck · 6 Oct 2015 at 15:38

anything I don't mind said:
I don't understand why they would do that though? They must have handed out over 300k in redundancies.

Bad timing maybe? Unless you earn more than the others who was made redundant and they saved a good few £££.

FrenchTart · 6 Oct 2015 at 15:39

tom_e said:
There's nothing to understand my comment was tongue in cheek, unless you really really pee'd one of the bosses off it's just a simple case of bad luck on the timing.

Remember...this is Groen....

anything I don't mind · 6 Oct 2015 at 15:39

tom_e said:
They're doing it purely to screw you over, the bosses were waiting until you handed your notice in to offer it again.

I have never met the bosses though and they have no idea who i am most likely. The first time they refused there was some BS about me being key, the bosses boss try to spin it as if it was a positive. Mean while guys i worked with for 5 years walked away with redundancy. I thought they would at some point offer redundancy again and i was not sure if i should hold out or not. I took the chance and went for a new job and resigned. I didn't expect them to send me the redundancy email a week later.

krooton · 6 Oct 2015 at 15:40

tom_e said:
There's nothing to understand my comment was tongue in cheek, unless you really really pee'd one of the bosses off it's just a simple case of bad luck on the timing.

lolgroen

Deathjester · 6 Oct 2015 at 15:45

It would depend on the reasoning behind the redundancies and the reasoning they gave you that your request was declined in the first instance.