First Car

Your the first 17yr old I've heard say they want a Volvo estate as there first car :p.

I thought of it for comedy value (think Gus Fring) and a decent one looked after (for the amount, I have no idea if that'll be possible but have my doubts) can be about as reliable as a car can be.
 
I didn't make my point terribly clear. What I was meaning was that the OP shouldn't dismiss a particular car because one person found them expensive to insure. It might be cheaper than smaller cars, it might be the same price, it might be hugely more expensive. Until he gets quotes he wont know - there's absolutely no guarantee that it would be any issue at all

Basically this. For my first car I found pretty much all past advice on here and other places pretty much irrelevant, until I did my own quotes there was no telling what quotes would be like. The only consistent factor was stereotypical boy racer cars being expensive but even then there were exceptions.
 
I find that insurance qoutes are all over the place, it varies so much day to day. It's cheaper to insure my 1.8 golf than it is to insure my 1.4 Polo.. Not sure how that works! Yet a 1.2 02 plate Fiesta was going to cost like £400 more than both of them!

Just keep searching! Find a few different cars you like, check them out, do some research on common faults and check insurance.

It's such a shame that it's so expensive and it put me off driving for two years despite having a car on my drive!
 
You don't need an estate for the sake of a tuba. Most mid-sized hatches should swallow one with ease, and even smaller ones will easily enough with the seats down. Smaller car should also help to make an indent on those sky-high insurance premiums young male drivers have - even if it doesn't, transitioning from learning in a smaller hatchback to then driving an estate could be quite a challenge, especially with limited experience until you learn to judge the size of your car efficiently.
 
You don't need an estate for the sake of a tuba. Most mid-sized hatches should swallow one with ease, and even smaller ones will easily enough with the seats down. Smaller car should also help to make an indent on those sky-high insurance premiums young male drivers have - even if it doesn't, transitioning from learning in a smaller hatchback to then driving an estate could be quite a challenge, especially with limited experience until you learn to judge the size of your car efficiently.

Well, it's not just th tuba. I play bass too, so with that come the bass itself, the amp (Which is bloody big) and the pedal board, aswell as a toolbox incase anything goes wrong. Obviously, most of the time this wont all be going around at once, but it will occasionally.
 
The other thing to bear in mind is tax.

My first car was a diesel hatchback, which was £20 or £30 p.a. to tax. I quite liked the idea of getting an old Mondeo with a decent engine, or a Volvo (on the basis that insurance should be cheap), but the tax on the bigger engines was colossal - more than the car cost in many cases.

And in the end, I couldn't find anything cheaper to insure than a 1.4 diesel hatchback anyway. 1.6L were a lot more expensive, but 1.4 and under were all fine.
 

Wow looks indestructible lol.
I've always had an itch to get an old Volvo for like 1k and just run it into the ground. The leather seats look comfy and there are some fairly powerful Turbo engines that can be modded easily. Would be nice to not care either when it would get whacked in car parks etc like every car I have owned has been :mad:I've had my Focus ST 6 weeks and a bird hit me at 50mph putting a split in the bonnet and someone has scuffed the bumper in work :(. It's annoying as it was Mint when I bought it from the 1 owner who had looked after it from day one.
 
Wow looks indestructible lol.
I've always had an itch to get an old Volvo for like 1k and just run it into the ground. The leather seats look comfy and there are some fairly powerful Turbo engines that can be modded easily. Would be nice to not care either when it would get whacked in car parks etc like every car I have owned has been :mad:I've had my Focus ST 6 weeks and a bird hit me at 50mph putting a split in the bonnet and someone has scuffed the bumper in work :(. It's annoying as it was Mint when I bought it from the 1 owner who had looked after it from day one.

My Dad's friend does this with mercedes benzs, He buys them cheap and then runs them until they can run no more.
 
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