More isn't always better. Quite suprised Sony didn't provide a better camera?

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S6(+) V Sony z5 Premium. Really loving the HDR, macro and sharpness to the S6. Not sure what others might thing but would largely go along with this:
 
The camera on the Z5 is good as is the S6, what's your point? The Z5 sensor is a newer version to that used in the S6.

I currently own a S6 and a Z5c both have spat out good shots, videos.
 
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The camera on the Z5 is good as is the S6, what's your point? The Z5 sensor is a newer version to that used in the S6.

I currently own a S6 and a Z5c both have spat out good shots, videos.

I'm sure they have but going by the examples given in the above video the S6 appears to perform better by way of dynamic range, sharpness and macro. Any other advantage the Z5 was shown to have had over the S6 in the example given above would have been down to taste or mitigated by post processing.
I wasn't aware that all S6 cameras were also using a Sony sensor: only some of them? Anyway, just saying I prefer my S6+ over the Sony so far since it, by way of quality, reminds me of my Fujis which has is quite pleasing.
What I do find as strange is the fact that I do have another S6 Edge with a Sony sensor which does not appear to "suffer" in the same way the Z5 does in the video?
 
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The camera on the Z5 is good as is the S6, what's your point? The Z5 sensor is a newer version to that used in the S6.

I currently own a S6 and a Z5c both have spat out good shots, videos.

In most tests I've seen so far, the S6 camera is significantly better in quite a few ways, especially video.
 
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In most tests I've seen so far, the S6 camera is significantly better in quite a few ways, especially video.

Just depends if you run auto or not. There's a few things I preferred about the s6 camera and there's a few things I like about the Z5 as well.

There's a completely reworked camera app due for the z5 imminently which should sort the remaining quirks of the software. Maybe. There's no doubt that the hardware is top notch as it's Sonys newest sensor, the S6 uses the previous Sony model.

The video steady shot is freakishly good it's like having one of those body mounted camera stabilisers.
 
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Its not all about the senor its how its used, look at the M9 that had the 20mp Sony in but its dog bad on that phone.

Samsung regularly release fantastic camera phones and manage to get the most out of them.
 
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Sony can't produce decent software to get the most out of their own hardware; this has always been the case with most Sony hardware I've owned.

Look at the TV section of their UK community forums, a lot of unhappy owners of their Android TV 2015 Bravia models are being very vocal about the bugs and lack of updates.
 
Its not all about the senor its how its used, look at the M9 that had the 20mp Sony in but its dog bad on that phone.

Samsung regularly release fantastic camera phones and manage to get the most out of them.


It's not a Sony sensor in the M9 iirc.
And the Z5 has nothing to help it it low light.
 
It's not a Sony sensor in the M9 iirc.
And the Z5 has nothing to help it it low light.

Was going off the reviews, they say the M9 uses a Sony sensor. The below was taken from one of the reviews.

It's weird, because the HTC One M9's new camera uses a Sony sensor. It might be similar to the one in the Xperia Z3, but to my eyes it didn't seem as good
 
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Was going off the reviews, they say the M9 uses a Sony sensor. The below was taken from one of the reviews.

It's weird, because the HTC One M9's new camera uses a Sony sensor. It might be similar to the one in the Xperia Z3, but to my eyes it didn't seem as good

It's a random Toshiba T4KA7.
 
Sony can't produce decent software to get the most out of their own hardware.
Exactly this. Amazing hardware let down by frankly terrible software. I used my mums Z3C for a while last week whilst on hols and was stunned by how poor the interface was not to mention the general IQ of the photos.
Looking at other reviews of the Z5 it seems none of them are echoing DxO marks "best camera available" claim which is ultimately making me feel rather nervous about just how good the nexus 6p will actually turn out..
 
Sent mine back today, no doubt the hardware is best out to date software no.. No doubt it will be a beast once Sony sort the software out but for what I want just a point and shoot I'm staying with the s6
 
To be fair, photos and videos are quite subjective and people have different preferences when it comes to things like warmth etc so you'll never get everyone happy.

If you want a great camera - get a a camera, not a phone.
 
It's not subjective when looking at sharpness and detail though and going by what I could see in the video, the Sony seemed to suffer . I will have to look at a few more examples before I completely make my mind up? Also speaking to a 02 guru guy who did all of his wedding photography using his S6, which surprised me.
 
Also speaking to a 02 guru guy who did all of his wedding photography using his S6, which surprised me.

Either he's talking out of his arse, he's shafting his clients or he's shooting for free and being an arse anyway.

Technically you will struggle to shoot weddings on the best camera gear, one of the reasons it's always been expensive to hire a decent 'tog, and while the market has opened for lots of cowboys recently, they still use decent DSLR kit reaching into the thousands, not a £350 smartphone (none of which will store even close to a wedding's worth of photos anyway).

The S6 has a remarkable camera, but it's still very limited as one and if someone has genuinely shot a wedding with one as an official photographer they need to be surgically relieved of some bits.



Edit: I wonder how many of the reviews are using the full 23 megapixels. Obviously the S6 produces images at ~2/3 of the size of the Z5, so how much of the image quality is down to the lower resolution? In basic terms you will gain quality as you lower the pixels, the reason why I was initially excited at the prospect of the M7 camera (before it just turned out to be ****) so does the Z5 turn the tables if it remains at the default 8mp? I've not looked yet.

And again, I've not looked, but the Samsung screens have always been garish in terms of colour-balance, not just edging towards saturation, but eye-bleedingly so. Do the current panels continue that trend? A photo will always look more impressive the more punchy it appears, but is it necessarily better? If you're looking through a camera yourself, without a side-by-side test, why can't it be the camera filming the phone who's balance is off?

And remember Sony have a big update to the camera software coming next month. Frankly if the Z5 is close to the S6 it will remain on my possible list (with the 6P and maybe even the X Style if I go the bonus direction). For me, all a camera needs to be is good enough, not necessarily the best - the package as a whole will dictate what's best.
 
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I'm sure they have but going by the examples given in the above video the S6 appears to perform better by way of dynamic range, sharpness and macro. Any other advantage the Z5 was shown to have had over the S6 in the example given above would have been down to taste or mitigated by post processing.
I wasn't aware that all S6 cameras were also using a Sony sensor: only some of them? Anyway, just saying I prefer my S6+ over the Sony so far since it, by way of quality, reminds me of my Fujis which has is quite pleasing.
What I do find as strange is the fact that I do have another S6 Edge with a Sony sensor which does not appear to "suffer" in the same way the Z5 does in the video?

What do you mean "suffer" if you are on about the colour temperature it can be adjusted to your taste.
 
It's not subjective when looking at sharpness and detail though and going by what I could see in the video, the Sony seemed to suffer . I will have to look at a few more examples before I completely make my mind up? Also speaking to a 02 guru guy who did all of his wedding photography using his S6, which surprised me.

Did you stand there wide eyed, nodding and saying "wow!" whilst he fed you his bull****?
 
What do you mean "suffer" if you are on about the colour temperature it can be adjusted to your taste.

I was talking about how it appeared to fare in low light conditions, sharpness/ clarity and macro in the video. I have since seen an alternative video/ assessment that claims the opposite?

Did you stand there wide eyed, nodding and saying "wow!" whilst he fed you his bull****?
Not at all. I couldn't care less, but if he was happy to use his phone for his own wedding then that was a matter for him. I'd just never heard of anybody doing that?
 
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