Bloody immigrants not respecting the law

My only question is will this be playing in the background What me whip?

In all seriousness the punishment is a bit mental for us Westerners but he knew or should have known the laws when he decided to live there.
Everywhere has different laws. In France you can drink when you're 14 but in some places in the western world its 16, 18, 21 etc.

My question is if he does die whilst the lashing is taking place would whoever is doing it be charged with manslaughter or something?
 
Where would you draw the line ? Law and Order surely is down to each individual country.

I don't think we should idle whilst other countries abuse their rule over fellow humans.

The appropriate response in such instance is debatable, but inaction is not the answer.
 
In all seriousness the punishment is a bit mental for us Westerners

For me it's NOT. I believe in bringing back the birch. There weren't many habitual offenders after they had had the birch.

In France you can drink when you're 14 but in some places in the western world its 16, 18, 21 etc.

You might find this site interesting:

https://www.drinkaware.co.uk/check-the-facts/alcohol-and-the-law/the-law-on-alcohol-and-under-18s

Particularly:- (It is NOT illegal - in UK) For a child aged five to 16 to drink alcohol at home or on other private premises
 
I agree. Its not like he was a tourist and innocently fell foul of a local law.

Let me through this scenario. Lets hypothetcially say there is a country in the world where its legal to kidnap 12 year girls and marry them and say the guy came across here and did that to your daughter. Lets say we still had the death penalty for that crime in this country. Would you be happy if his sentence then got commuted cause he was a foreigner and it was legal in his country?

I know its an extreme example but the point is the guy has lived there 25 years, he must know all the laws. The Saudis treat alcohol as bad as hard drugs in other countries. Should you be excused from any punishment on the basis of that you are unwell? May as well give a green light to any unwell criminals to do what they want then with impunity.

I don't agree with public lashes but thats the law in that country. Hell the Saudis gave one year sentences and 99 lashes to 15 students who had a party in their dorm with women and alcohol present.
 
The punishment may be barbaric and very outdated, but he still broke the rules.

If that is the penatly for such crimes then he knew what he could be facing.
 
Don't have a problem with this, don't like the laws and customs of a country then don't go there. The Saudi authorities provide doctors at every flogging who will stop the punishment if it becomes dangerous.
 
don't live in that country

Or any country where Saudi is supporting a fundamentalist islamic insurgency.

Or even Birmingham :p

Don't have a problem with this, don't like the laws and customs of a country then don't go there. The Saudi authorities provide doctors at every flogging who will stop the punishment if it becomes dangerous.

Wow. You really are pro-Sharia aren't you? You defend this backwards code of laws at every opportunity.
 
I don't think we should idle whilst other countries abuse their rule over fellow humans.

The appropriate response in such instance is debatable, but inaction is not the answer.

I completely understand and I know the questionable Human Rights abuses that the Saudi seem to get away with.

I do not support capital punishment for any crime but then I wouldn't want our government to have pressure put upon on them from the likes of the US, Russia, Saudi, China etc because we don't execute our criminals
 
What's your view on how IS run areas they control? What about when people can be stoned to death for 'just' having an affair or being gay, etc?

Why are you brining IS into the conversation?

If a government say "this is the law and this is the punishment" then that's the law.

I'm not here to dispute gay people or people having affairs, I was simply saying, he did the crime and knew the punishment, and that IMO the punishment although barbaric is still the punishment.
 
He has lived there 25 years TAX FREE, hardly seems worth it now

Because he couldnt keep off the alcohol?

Or too tight to spend that tax free money on buying it safely?

foreigners are left to drink in their compounds and the Saudi's turn a blind eye to it so long as its in their compound.

However the come down hard on smugglers esp if they are supplying Saudis.

I suspect there is much more to this case than he was caught with some booze for his own use.
 
I don't think we should idle whilst other countries abuse their rule over fellow humans.

The appropriate response in such instance is debatable, but inaction is not the answer.

A lot of people would say that about the death penalty in the states? Or the fact they will hold foreign nationals without trials for indefinite time and torture them. Ive not seen people screaming for the uk to break of relations with the US and a trade embargo because of it.
 
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