Nissan Juke vs. Lorry M42

As Steampunk says, seems to me that the Juke was a nose in front and got hit on the rear quarter, he probably never even saw the lorry indicating.
 
Lorry driver. Surely it's second nature to be ultra careful when changing into that lane right as a slip road joins? The Nissan driver blended in perfectly. I HATE it when people come flying down the slip road and then seem to panic when it comes to filtering into the traffic....you don't know what the hell they're going to do :eek:
 
Am I the only person that won't merge on the inside of a HGV or Truck? Yeah the truck driver should probably have not pulled across but having been in the cabs of many HGV's i'd be surprised if he had even seen him, regardless of how many times he checked.

The juke driver had a fair bit of visibility to see that he needed to gain some speed or slow down a bit before joining the Motorway to avoid joining in a blind spot.

They are both idiots in my opinion.
 
Having watched the video a 2nd time now yeah I can see what you mean, Juke did have several seconds to accelerate past the lorry and join lane 1, then signal and join lane 2 overtaking traffic several cars ahead in lane 1, leaving the lorry to join lane 1.

This does not change the fact that the lorry is at fault of course, but this could have been avoided if Juke had used his mirrors and judged the situation unfolding a bit better.

There are multiple ways in which this could have been avoided. But as said, the lorry is still at fault in this incident.
 
I think a big problem is that car drivers just do not know where the blind spots are on a large vehicle. I was shocked to see that diagram that shows the blind spots on an arctic, let alone one turning. If you see that, you understand instantly why so many cyclists get killed riding up the inside of an arctic that then turns left on them.
 
Iamzod said:
Am I the only person that won't merge on the inside of a HGV or Truck?
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Nope. I was taught that if you can't see the driver of a lorry, they can't see you. Whether you're along side or behind. If you can see their mirrors, they can more than likely see you. On the nearside, you might see the mirrors, but if you can't see the driver he probably can't see you. Once you start getting close to the cab it becomes much more difficult to be seen. So I'll back off or give space when merging with an HGV.

I've ridden in HGVs when I was working removals and deliveries and there's large parts around the cab you just can't see. Even right in front, unless you sort of stand up and peer over the dash.

There was that Clio that ended up along the front of the lorry on the motorway a couple years back and the driver had no idea it was there.

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The Juke has put himself in the trucks blind spot at a guess, but, the trucker has changed lane exactly where vehicles with such blind spots shouldn't I.e. at a point where he would know traffic would be merging.

The Juke driver was a bit of a prat but the professional driver should and could have anticipated this and avoided it by staying in his lane until he's past the joining traffic...


I put my indicator on and wait to see somebody appear from my blind spot(s) when in my artic, had that driver waited before moving he wouldn't have collected the Juke as he has.

One driver is a professional the other an amateur, it's the responsibility of the former to allow for the stupidity of the latter.
 
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Who moves from lane 2 in to lane 1 when there is traffic on the slip lane? Suicidal manoeuvre by the lorry driver. That accident could have been prevented at numerous points. The juke driver, while not at fault, could really have increased their speed so it was slightly faster than the traffic in lane 1 and 2. Personally I try to avoid the right hand slip lane when it's busy as you usually get less time to pull on to the motorway.
 
Yes, the lorry driver should have waited another 10-15 seconds to get past that junction. A two-lane slip road joining from the left is not the place to be moving lanes over to the left.
 
Moving back into lane 1 at a busy junction is moronic, lorry drivers fault regardless of blind spots and what not. Just wait for everything to re-align itself 500m up the road and then make the transition.
 
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So you take evasive action (Which is what would have been required here - he had nowhere to go, his only choice was to brake and create a gap or nail the throttle) every time you see an indicator?

I don't believe you.
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I'm not sure what he's like now but when we were at uni my mate did this whenever we were on a motorway, as soon as he seen an indicator it was like he'd just dropped anchor daft beggar.
 
Will Gill said:
Moving back into lane 1 at a busy junction is moronic, lorry drivers fault regardless of blind spots and what not. Just wait for everything to re-align itself 500m up the road and then make the transition.
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People moving from L2 > L1 adjacent to on-slips is one of my pet hates! :mad:
 
Hey snapdragon, what dashcam do you use, that footage is much clearer than my aging cam and I'm looking to replace it soon.
 
That junction reminds me of the M27 - M3 junction, where there is an accident almost every single day because of idiots doing stuff like this. :mad:
 
I see that manoeuvre on a weekly basis when joining the M62 westbound from the M1 south. Slip road joins the m'way just after the M1 north slip which is where the m'way becomes 3 lanes after being 2. Some wagon drivers feel the need to be instantly back across to lanes 1 & 2.

Been pretty close to being collected a couple of times, so much so that I now don't use the merging slip road and stay in the other lane of the slip road which becomes a lane for the next junction. Far safer and easier to join a few hundred metres down the road.
 
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