Here it is the new BMW M2

Rossi~ said:
What do we get over a remapped M235i (which is pretty gnarly as it is)?
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Better suspension, much better brakes, eLSD, wider track, wider tyres, less weight, improved lubrication system. It's probably no quicker in a straight line, but who cares about how quickly you can drive in a straight line?
 
SDK^ said:
It's the same weight as a Golf R Estate DSG with all of the Haldex system. Did they make parts of the M2 using Lead?! It looks great though.

Also, the Nurburgring time shown in the video is not that great when compared to some of the recent hot hatches. I assuming they did it whilst the speed limits were in force :p

For a track focussed car the numbers don't look great. Maybe the driving pleasure is off the scale.
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I don't pay attention to nurburgring times, there is no consistency between manufacturers (I.e. some do them on semi-slick tyres) to even warrant a fair comparison.

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Scratch that http://www.bmw.com/com/en/newvehicles/mseries/m2coupe/2015/showroom/technical_data.html

The Unladen EU weight is 1570kg (1595kg DCT)...

http://www.bmw.com/com/en/newvehicles/mseries/m4coupe/2014/showroom/technical_data/index.html

Compared to the F82 which is 1572kg (1612kg DCT)

That is very heavy...only 2kg lighter than an M4 in manual form. Factor in it only has a 52L tank vs 60L in the M4 and given that EU unladen carries 90% fuel the M4 in manual form may in fact be lighter...
 
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[TW]Fox;28681348 said:
What? It's nothing of the sort!
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Absolutely spot on.

The M2 though a great car BMW have clearly held it back massively, so I suspect rumours of both an M2 CSL and M4 CSL could be highly true, particular with M2 as it is so held back.

I suspect an M2 CSL will come with following changes:-

60k
Carbon Roof
Rear cage option
Remapped, lighter exhaust components, circa 400-425BHP, 400lb/ft
Further suspension tweaks
Lightweight bucket option
Carbon interior
Michelin Cup 2 tyres
Further improvement to brakes
Maybe other lightweight body panels (wings, bonnet, boot etc)
Option of AC delete, stereo delete etc. etc.


Though I do quite like the look of the M2 it just scream to me BMW have held it back, I mean come on 7:58 ring time, they could put Cup 2's on this car and bring that Ring time to under 7:50 quite easily with just a tyre change. If they bring a CSL edition can see it being around the 7:40 area and a real good drive.

Weak point though and I don't care how good modern turbo's are, but is still the engine. S54, S65, V10 the true greats now gone. :(
 
Gibbo said:
Absolutely spot on.

The M2 though a great car BMW have clearly held it back massively, so I suspect rumours of both an M2 CSL and M4 CSL could be highly true, particular with M2 as it is so held back.

I suspect an M2 CSL will come with following changes:-

60k
Carbon Roof
Rear cage option
Remapped, lighter exhaust components, circa 400-425BHP, 400lb/ft
Further suspension tweaks
Lightweight bucket option
Carbon interior
Michelin Cup 2 tyres
Further improvement to brakes
Maybe other lightweight body panels (wings, bonnet, boot etc)
Option of AC delete, stereo delete etc. etc.


Though I do quite like the look of the M2 it just scream to me BMW have held it back, I mean come on 7:58 ring time, they could put Cup 2's on this car and bring that Ring time to under 7:50 quite easily with just a tyre change. If they bring a CSL edition can see it being around the 7:40 area and a real good drive.

Weak point though and I don't care how good modern turbo's are, but is still the engine. S54, S65, V10 the true greats now gone. :(
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Think the M4 CSL is highly unlikely given the GTS as that hasn't upped the stakes massively in power and weight savings (despite pricing). More likely is the competition package. I think an M2 CSL is very likely though given as per my last post the M2 weighs only 2kg less than an M4 when both are in manual guise.
 
SS-89 said:
Think the M4 CSL is highly unlikely given the GTS as that hasn't upped the stakes massively in power and weight savings (despite pricing). More likely is the competition package. I think an M2 CSL is very likely though given as per my last post the M2 weighs only 2kg less than an M4 when both are in manual guise.
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Hence why I also say M2 highly likely as it seems they left a lot on the table to easily change, they can easily shave upto 100kg off it and very easily give it 400+ horses. :)

Carbon roof: -10kg
Wheels: -10kg
Carbon buckets: -30-40kg
Exhaust system: -10-20kg
Other body parts: -10kg
AC delete: -20kg


An M2 CSL would be rather epic if it was around 1380-1430kg with around 400 horses and maybe a true Cayman GTS/GT4 competitor. :)
 
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They won't do an M4 CSL because of the GTS. I'm hoping for an M2 CSL. Supposedly, BMW will take a refundable deposit on the M2 CSL. Couple of people on other forums already have deposits down for it. Although I've heard they will do this for anything speculative.
 
Havana_UK said:
Better suspension, much better brakes, eLSD, wider track, wider tyres, less weight, improved lubrication system. It's probably no quicker in a straight line, but who cares about how quickly you can drive in a straight line?
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The M2 is 40kg heavier than the M235i
 
SDK^ said:
The M2 is 40kg heavier than the M235i
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Something doesn't add up. Bmw list its unladen weight as 1570kg which is pretty much the same as the m4. Yet most of the articles I've read state it's lighter than the m235i which has an unladen weight of 1415 on the Bmw website...all very confusing.
 
looks an awesome machine and no way will it be heavier than the m4 and the lesser car its based on would be a silly move.
 
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