LOL, only a lunatic would find the death penalty a good idea for adultery, theft, etc.
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LOL, only a lunatic would find the death penalty a good idea for adultery, theft, etc.
As do I. I've never been, and can't imagine any reasonable plausible circumstances under which, personally, I would go.
However, a friend did go, some years back. He was working on a direct commission from the Saudi king, in a couple of the Royal Palaces. He did about 18 months, on a rough rota of 6 weeks on, two weeks off. And retired on his earnings from that one job, aged early 40s. It set him, and his family, up for life. Financially, it was like a lottery win.
If I was presented with that sort of opportunity, at that sort of age, would I be tempted to say "Yes, your Majesty", hold my nose, do my 18 months and retire to a life of financially comfortable leisure activity? I'd be tempted, yes. I don't know if I'd give in, but probably.
Would you turn your nose up at such a hugely lucrative contract?
It would take something of that order to get me inside Soudi borders, but if I did, I'd be very careful indeed to do nothing whatever to upset their justice system, would keep my head down, my nose clean and get the work done and my ass out of there as fast as feasible. I certainly wouldn't be flouting booze laws.
I can't imagine anything like that happening to me, but if it did, I might break my self-vow never to set foot in the place. I also wouldn't be seeking the work, and nor did my friend. They went to him, and waved cash under his nose until he gave in and went. He was, admittedly, world class at his craft, and their intention seemed to be that they wanted the best, whatever it cost, and that arguably was him. So, price was pretty much no object. I imagine it's a convincing argument to go.
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That’s why we have a system where the aggrieved party doesn’t get to choose the punishment. Pretty sensible if you ask me.
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I think Britain would find itself in a rather difficult bind against Saudi`s Millitary... They are pretty well equipped...
Have a look at the list again. See some of the trivial things on it. See some of the stupid things on it. Of the ones on there that I have personally suffered I still wouldn't want the offender beheaded.
This!
If you don't like it.....don't go.....and if you do go, don't break the law and expect relief because you are a foreign national. This guy lived there long enough to know how this stuff can do down over there....there is no democratic process and punishment can change on a whim.
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The Iraqi army was large and reasonably well equipped when GW2 kicked off.
Since all but the Republican Guard tossed their kit in the nearest ditch and went home, it didn't really matter.
I'd expect the Saudis to be little better once a few of their shiny toys get TLAM'd/JDAM'd.
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Except the Saudi's, like any number of other similar countries such as Kuwait do consume alcohol. The law is there to make themselves feel good about their religious beliefs while, like many religious people, only following said beliefs when its not too inconvenient.
As it happens the story may be somewhat inaccurate but Saudis human rights abuse will continue. They should be treat in a similar way to North Korea and left to rot.
I seriously think you would have to be unhinged to be in favour of the death penalty for quite a number of those "crimes", no matter the injured party.
From that list you quoted:
Theft (fourth conviction)
Treason
Waging war on God
Witchcraft
Sedition
Sexual misconduct
Sorcery
Fornication
Home invasion
Sodomy, homosexuality, or lesbianism (If a man or woman is sodomized by their own consent, then they will also be sentenced to death along with the sodomizer)
Idolatry
Adultery (Unmarried adulterers can be sentenced to 100 lashes, married ones can be sentenced to stoning.)
Apostasy (Apostates are sentenced to beheading but are usually given three days to repent and return to Islam.)
Armed robbery
Blasphemy
Burglary
Carjacking
You'd seriously think that you might be happy with someone being put to death for any of these ^ ?
The only ones I left out were:
Aircraft hijacking
Drug smuggling
Murder
Rape
Sedition
Terrorism
Personally, I wouldn't advocate death penalty for anything, but I suspect some people would argue the case for some of those.
Exactly, and the victims have precious little to say about it either!
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"To sit in solemn silence in a dull, dark dock,
In a pestilential prison, with a lifelong lock,
Awaiting the sensation of a short, sharp shock,
From a cheap and chippy chopper on a big black block"
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What's the weather like on your planet?
Cloudy with a chance of halal meatballs?
You see this come from the naivity about alcohol just because of it's acceptance in our society
Alcohol is a strong drug with very harmfull effects to the body, and at levels of consumption that would surprise (shock?) you.
And to give an idea on what the levels of consumption can be defined as :-
By these definitions from the NIH, I would say most of us binge drink and a lot of people would be classed as heavy drinkers.
And that's just the physical effects on the individual, let alone taking into account the anti-social and behavioural negative effects it has on society. So, no, it's not a 'harmless' substance at all.
If we expect foreign nationals to follow our rules and customs in this country, then it would be hypocritical to expect leeway for our citizens in other countries.
The punishment should stand on that basis. It's not nice to the guy, but taking alcohol into Saudi Arabia is just retarded.
The punishment should stand on that basis. It's not nice to the guy, but taking alcohol into Saudi Arabia is just retarded.
Yes, I agree with this, but I do sympathise for him none the less.
Re-freakbro: holy semantics over the use of harm batman
. It's harmless in the sense that it's not obviously harmful enough to be classified as illegal, with any sensible application of judging what people should be free to choose to do. Other drugs should obviously be banned but I do think the punishment for possession is ludicrous even in this country - being the lefty hippy that I am.
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and you think that the penalty/rehabilitation system works especially for those who get short prison sentences for petty or serious crimes?
lol
It works better than beheading people, yes.
You aren't going to get much support for this from most civilised countries.
Especially when on your list of "crimes" calling for execution are "sleeping around" and "not being a muslim anymore".
You don't very much sound like a moderate, btw. Support for the death penalty for religious violations tends to be something the extremists believe in. Are you an extremist?