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Budget console killer - 960 or 380, or wait for 380x

If you're planning on upgrading the Cpu at some point you'll get the benefit of the faster card anyhow. Regardless of any bottlenecks i'd still buy the fastest card in your budget.
 
If the prices were similar, I would get the 780 over the 380.

Forget about people saying a bottleneck on this one, get the 780 if you can afford it, it is the better card. If there is a bottleneck from the CPU, just turn the graphics settings up more :)
 
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The 380x will be gtx780 performance but will cost more. It will most likely perform quite a bit better under dx12 if longevity is what you're after.
 
Theres definitely the potential to upgrade the CPU.
Seems like the thread is fairly evenly split between the faster card + slower CPU and slower card + faster CPU.
I thought the 380x would be similarly priced with it being a mid range card.
Far too many confusing options..
 
Does it have to be an Intel CPU?
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Nope! not at all. I'm kind of new to pc hardware, and am only familiar with intel products/naming system. So AMD is kind of confusing to me in general. Like i3/i5 equivalents and the models within those families.

I also read some reviews that said even the 6 core AMD one was worse than the 4 core i5.
 
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Nope! not at all. I'm kind of new to pc hardware, and am only familiar with intel products/naming system. So AMD is kind of confusing to me in general. Like i3/i5 equivalents and the models within those families.

I also read some reviews that said even the 6 core AMD one was worse than the 4 core i5.
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Thats very subjective, they are different and get there performance in different ways, Intel use less higher performing cores while AMD use more lower performing cores.

Older games tend to favour Intel CPU's much more than newer games, that much is true.

If it was me with relevant budget constraints i would go for higher GPU performance and an AMD CPU rather than Intel CPU and lower GPU performance.

I use an AMD CPU with a GTX 970, which is more like a 780TI and its overclocked to the high heavens.

I don't get any bottlenecks at all.
 
Thats very subjective, they are different and get there performance in different ways, Intel use less higher performing cores while AMD use more lower performing cores.

Older games tend to favour Intel CPU's much more than newer games, that much is true.

If it was me with relevant budget constraints i would go for higher GPU performance and an AMD CPU rather than Intel CPU and lower GPU performance.

I use an AMD CPU with a GTX 970, which is more like a 780TI and its overclocked to the high heavens.

I don't get any bottlenecks at all.
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I always thought games prefer fewer cores that are higher performing, as current games cant utilise more than 4. But I think your point about the GPU makes logical sense. I'm also conscious of DX12 working well with current AMD cards, but i don't know how far away we are from DX12 games.

Which AMD CPU do you use/would recommend?
 
Start a new thread in general hardware and just give a price and say if you need a complete base unit or not e.g. case,motherboard,ram,cpu/apu and harddrive with a dvd drive, cables and psu also a monitor?.
 
You could buy a base unit from here it will cost more but they will put it together for you it all depends how good you are at building pc's buying a base unit might be worth it if you never build one before.
 
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Which AMD CPU do you use/would recommend?
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I wouldn't go AMD, In gaming you can see significant performance drops from AMD's 8 core cpu's when comparing them with Intel's quad core cpu's. Especially the minimums. Use various review sites to compare cpu's across a large number of games rather than looking at what they do on individual titles. Some titles show them performing just as well as any other cpu while some can show an 8 core cpu to be 20 or more frames slower than a 4 core with better single threaded performance and that is where AMD's current offerings fall behind.
If you want a well balanced gaming rig the best current option is an i5. Skylake appears to be the best and a Haswell refresh is next.
 
will put it together for you it all depends how good you are at building pc's buying a base unit might be worth it if you never build one before.
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Yep I will head on over to general hardware. I've had them built in the past, but I would like to try myself as its something I would like to learn to do.
 
achu said:
I always thought games prefer fewer cores that are higher performing, as current games cant utilise more than 4. But I think your point about the GPU makes logical sense. I'm also conscious of DX12 working well with current AMD cards, but i don't know how far away we are from DX12 games.

Which AMD CPU do you use/would recommend?
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In general yes that is true, actually if we are talking about Draw Calls its just one thread/core, not even 4. but the CPU does a lot more than that, AI and Physics calculations are done across more threads, more than 4.

And example of that is here, you see the £140 FX-8350 just topping out the £250 Intel i7.


Mostly it looks more like this. Even if the performance is lower you aint ruining 980's in SLI, which is the point really, if i was running A LOT of GPU power i would want an Intel i5 CPU at least, but for one mid to high end card card? n its not going to make any difference to most things.



And if we are talking about DX12 the Intel vs AMD argument will become moot as the performance you will get from any CPU will increase 15 fold :)

Its upto you but the FX-6300 is perfectly good chip and less that £85, add £20 for an after market cooler because the stock one is loud.

And DX12 with AMD or Nvidia GPU's, there is some thought that the AMD GPU's may do some things better but in truth no one really knows anything yet :)
 
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