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Nvidia plans to lock Game Ready drivers behind GeForce Experience registration

Anyone complaining about this is simply complaining for the sake of complaining, the is no negative here

When/if for example a 350.XX type TDR bug sets in and 3/4/5 releases later it still isn't fixed?

What happens then?

How do you roll back to the last stable driver?

Can you roll back?

If you don't have knowledge on how to gain access to it?
 
atleast your NVidia guys get drivers, being with amd got to wait over 8 months for a whql driver to come out.

The thing that is hilarious is that 8 month old WHQL driver worked flawlessly with a new gameworks/twimtbp game, while Nvidia had to release a half dozen drivers to get the game to work without crashing for a huge portion of Nvidia users. Fast isn't a good thing, it's just that, fast. If the drivers are rubbish when rushing them out is completely pointless.

It's also hilarious because AMD had for years categorically more consistent and more frequent driver updates and at the time Nvidia users banged on about how their drivers were further apart but more solid when they came... despite the multiple games that released multiple beta drivers with multiple issues before hitting the right one after a new game release. Now AMD release drivers less often while Nvidia still provides loads of rushed poor drivers and now AMD releasing drivers further apart is what makes them worse.

It's almost like a bunch of people are paid to deflect attention from obvious Nvidia problems by bashing AMD for whatever they are doing at the time regardless of if it's a problem or not, regardless of how many problems Nvidia is having.
 
When/if for example a 350.XX type TDR bug sets in and 3/4/5 releases later it still isn't fixed?

What happens then?

How do you roll back to the last stable driver?

Can you roll back?

If you don't have knowledge on how to gain access to it?

Maybe when this is introduced to the GFE software package there will be an option to roll back drivers.

We can all list if's and but's all day long, none of it is known apart from the obvious of having to install GFE and register. I can understand people not wanting to install it from that perspective but all the rest is unknown.
 
It's almost like a bunch of people are paid to deflect attention from obvious Nvidia problems by bashing AMD for whatever they are doing at the time regardless of if it's a problem or not, regardless of how many problems Nvidia is having.

And so it begins. The shocker of your accusations here DM. What you claim of others is exactly what you do yourself.
 
"less often" is fine, 8 months is taking the ****

WHQL means nothing though, amd released beta drives think the longest time waiting was 3 months around the time of Freesync coming out.

Least for the most part users had good performance. While users on nvidia were constantly rolling back drivers to stop this TDR error did you forget that massive thread on here?
 
I never understand why someone would lock themselves into a particular brand of GPU because of the way the competition "handle things". I buy what is best for my needs and the politics is something I don't give a hoot about.

If you don't agree with something, why would you support it? That's just like me going out and buying Manchester United football kit.
The main thing here, least I have a point in why I don't buy nvidia and not just doing it for nothing.
 
Again Nvidia fails to play well with others, this time it is with it's own customers.

I saw this coming when Nvidia announced it's own cloud gaming service, GRID. GFE is the perfect platform to push this subscription DRM.
 
I haven't noticed Nvidia's Drivers coming any thicker or faster than AMD's, it seems about the same to me.
 
If you don't agree with something, why would you support it? That's just like me going out and buying Manchester United football kit.
The main thing here, least I have a point in why I don't buy nvidia and not just doing it for nothing.

Football is very tribal though isn't it. What other companies are on your moral list. There must be quite a few as there are a lot of companies unfortunately that make Nvidia look like angels with their business practices and ethics. Or do your morals only apply to computing hardware?
 
I haven't noticed Nvidia's Drivers coming any thicker or faster than AMD's, it seems about the same to me.

I have had no problems with AMD or Nvidia drivers recently on single card setups(Not sure about cross fire or SLI though) most of the time I update for updating's sake with both vendors.
 
When/if for example a 350.XX type TDR bug sets in and 3/4/5 releases later it still isn't fixed?

What happens then?

How do you roll back to the last stable driver?

Can you roll back?

If you don't have knowledge on how to gain access to it?

You go to device manager, right click the GPU, select properties, driver, and roll back driver. Just like you do now except when GFE tells you there is a new one available you don't install it.

Or if you are 3/4/5 releases down the line then you can just uninstall the drivers and download the older ones form Nvidia's site (quarterly updates means they will be up), then don't update them until it's fixed (and make sure W10 doesn't update them for you).
 
I have had no problems with AMD or Nvidia drivers recently on single card setups(Not sure about cross fire or SLI though) most of the time I update for updating's sake with both vendors.

Yeah same here, not had a problem with Drivers on either GPU, install and forget on both sides, i don't know what all the fuss is about, they are as good as eachother
 
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You were late to the party:p

Maybe when this is introduced to the GFE software package there will be an option to roll back drivers.

We can all list if's and but's all day long, none of it is known apart from the obvious of having to install GFE and register. I can understand people not wanting to install it from that perspective but all the rest is unknown.

You missed the point of the post in what I was replying too?

In essence, human nature breeds both positive and negatives in regards to the unknown.

Personally don't have an issue with GFE, it's the only way I can activate DSR as it's undetectable via NCP due to a config conflict, I do however want quick access to various different drivers sitting on my storage for whatever reason be it instability problems introduced on a new driver or better game specific performance.

:)

You go to device manager, right click the GPU, select properties, driver, and roll back driver. Just like you do now except when GFE tells you there is a new one available you don't install it.

Or if you are 3/4/5 releases down the line then you can just uninstall the drivers and download the older ones form Nvidia's site (quarterly updates means they will be up), then don't update them until it's fixed (and make sure W10 doesn't update them for you).

What do I want that nonsense for when I can manually do what I want the way it's always been?
 
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You missed the point of the post in what I was replying too?

In essence, human nature breeds both positive and negatives in regards to the unknown.

Personally don't have an issue with GFE, it's the only way I can activate DSR as it's undetectable via NCP due to a config conflict, I do however want quick access to various different drivers sitting on my storage for whatever reason be it instability problems introduced on a new driver or better game specific performance.

:)

Ah my bad :)
 
Football is very tribal though isn't it. What other companies are on your moral list. There must be quite a few as there are a lot of companies unfortunately that make Nvidia look like angels with their business practices and ethics. Or do your morals only apply to computing hardware?

Good question I also dislike Asus and how they support there products. I have good reason and I'll share.
Asus: support for the product after first year is shocking motherboard drivers and audio drivers never get backed enough. This is very bad to the point others been going out the way to release drivers Uni driver.
 
Good question I also dislike Asus and how they support there products. I have good reason and I'll share.
Asus: support for the product after first year is shocking motherboard drivers and audio drivers never get backed enough. This is very bad to the point others been going out the way to release drivers Uni driver.

IMO Asus make the best Motherboards, My Sabertooth is 4 years old and its spent its entire life running AMD 6 and 8 core CPU's running at silly frequencies / overclocks, at least 2 years with boiling hot VRMs from greedy very overclocked 8 core Vishera's, its saved those CPU's countless times from multiple time failing water coolers.

It spent those 4 years tortured and it just keeps going and going and going with perfect and dependable stability.

BUT, Asus after sales service is abysmal, its a real same because the hardware is unmatched.
 
IMO Asus make the best Motherboards, My Sabertooth is 4 years old and its spent its entire life running AMD 6 and 8 core CPU's running at silly frequencies / overclocks, at least 2 years with boiling hot VRMs from greedy very overclocked 8 core Vishera's, its saved those CPU's countless times from multiple time failing water coolers.

It spent those 4 years tortured and it just keeps going and going and going with perfect and dependable stability.

BUT, Asus after sales service is abysmal, its a real same because the hardware is unmatched.

That I do agree there hardware is very good. Just like Nvidia hardware is very good. But the support is shocking from Asus.
 
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