Microsoft re-issues controversial Windows 10 patch KB 3035583

Disable automatic updating altogether in win7.

I was never happy with how Windows 7 delivered updates, not only does it make most peoples pc's nearly unusable ( especially systems with less than 4gb's of ram, and anyone with an HDD) due to the slowness and i/o ops, it forces a reboot down your throat which you can only postpone 4 hrs. Not to mention the way the updates work, if you install a clean setup, you'll be stuck updating for at least 8 hours on any non SSD pc ( first an hour or 2 ''looking for updates'', then ages installing em ( downloading is usually fast luckily)...

Manually updating once per month now and all is fine on my own pc.
At work all our POS systems are updated once per year or so, because they cannot go down, even not for 15 mins of installing updates.

From 8.1 ( or even 8, I don't know, I skipped that rubbish) at least it doesn't force a reboot down your throat.


I can understand MS wanting Windows 10 pushed:
> They can collect much more data they can sell, especially from people who use the ''express settings''.
> Their update servers can be downgraded, because p2p windows update
> Being able to dump Vista, 7 and 8.1 support asap



Finally, while I like Windows 10 ( using it on laptop which I use for work so 8+ hrs a day), I don't see anything wrong with Windows 7, don't fix what isn't broken. Not to mention the lack of performance improvements ( 7, 8 and 10 all run pretty much the same). I fear some old games or apps might not work in 10, so leaving that for now. Plus I'm running no realtime a/v on Win 7 and Win 10 comes with Defender integrated, so going to win 10 will essentially mean a performance downgrade.
 
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IT Troll said:
There is a new registry setting which blocks O/S updates through Windows Update. Set this and then forget.
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Can it be tailored or is it a blanket block? That is to say I like what Windows Update does for the most part, just not the bit about pushing products and services that I don't wish to use at this time.

Got a link?
 
their a mucher easier way.
The official way for businesses from microsoft. (works on win7 pro)

open Group policy
under Computer Config > Admin Templates > Windows Components > Windows Update > Turn off upgrade Windows > Enable > Apply > Ok

if you do not have this in group policy you can download the patch publicly

If windows 10 already downloaded?
1. Turn off Windows update service
2. Delete everything inside c:\windows\software distribution
3. turn on Windows Update service
4. Change Windows setting to Download but not install
4. Reboot
5. The first windows update check will take a while (up to 1 hour on the 200 workstations i did)
 
smogsy said:
their a mucher easier way.
The official way for businesses from microsoft. (works on win7 pro)

open Group policy
under Computer Config > Admin Templates > Windows Components > Windows Update > Turn off upgrade Windows > Enable > Apply > Ok

if you do not have this in group policy you can download the patch publicly
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If you don't have Group Policy the fix is the registry setting I posted. Doesn't get much easier that a single registry setting.
 
Windows 10 has not been forced on anybody, it's totally the users/owners choice whether to upgrade or not. Sure, having notifications is annoying when you don't want it, but I think it's a little bit dramatic to say they are forcing it.

Whilst some of the updating is irritating me a little, I'd much rather have the vast majority of users on a common O/S platform so it's easier, faster, cheaper to support. It also makes software cheaper to develop because of a singular O/S.
 
MichaelAwkward said:
Notifications =/= including it as a normal update so that it gets downloaded onto Win 7/8 machines that are set to auto-update.
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It's not installed without giving the user the option.

I'm glad Microsoft are trying to publicize it all so well, and get people on board.

Surprised some people on here aren't still using Windows 95/XP with all the complaining going on.
 
Scougar said:
It's not installed without giving the user the option.

I'm glad Microsoft are trying to publicize it all so well, and get people on board.

Surprised some people on here aren't still using Windows 95/XP with all the complaining going on.
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The issue is not that it is installed (I know it is not, usually anyway), it is that it constantly nags the user even if they click "no." I personally would not complain if it came up with an icon, telling the end user to "Get Windows 10 now" and then had an easy way to opt-out and disable the icon, without having to be an advanced user, but it does not.

It would be really nice if people on here looked at things from other angles instead of through their eyes only.

For the record, I like Windows 10 and had it on my main rig until yesterday, still looking to dual-boot with Windows 7 (Dropped back due to compatibility issues I could not solve) I am just doing the smart thing and looking from both perspectives.
 
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I didn't like W10 to begin with either, however decided to force myself to like it. I installed a few good programs to make my life easier and make 10 more like 7. Notably Classic Shell, the old W7 calculator, and uninstalled all those terrible W10 apps. Now it basically looks like 7 and runs snappier.

The way I see it is that you have to upgrade at some point, you can dig your heels into the ground and complain now, but eventually you will upgrade. Any Windows 95 users here?
 
linktoinsanity said:
The issue is not that it is installed (I know it is not, usually anyway), it is that it constantly nags the user even if they click "no." I personally would not complain if it came up with an icon, telling the end user to "Get Windows 10 now" and then had an easy way to opt-out and disable the icon, without having to be an advanced user, but it does not.

It would be really nice if people on here looked at things from other angles instead of through their eyes only.

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I completely agree/understand. But coming along with a rage attitude is just likely to get the 'calm down it isn't that bad' response.

I have experienced good and bad from Win10, and it can be frustrating, but I'm not getting my panties in a knot about it. I do what I have always done and try to work it out, or ask for advice if I can't.
 
Now successfully running a dual-boot scenario, Windows 10 booting as default. Win-win, though yesterday, despite registry additions to block an upgrade, Windows 7 asked me to upgrade... :(

Fixed though.

Scougar said:
I completely agree/understand. But coming along with a rage attitude is just likely to get the 'calm down it isn't that bad' response.
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Yes I do agree that people coming on here and screaming and moaning straight off does not help their cause.

However I can understand the frustration.
 
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opethdisciple said:
I understand you don't want to be forced ion to an upgrade. That makes sense.

However Win 10 is a very good OS. So it's in your best interest to upgrade.
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Win10 has many issues for me that Win7 doesn't/didn't have. I'm sticking with 10 because I know 7's days are numbered, but still.

Amongst the improvements there are tons of bugs with 10. Major bugs, like...

Not being able to shut down or restart (some service or other frequently becomes a zombie).

Not being able to wake my monitor out of standby (have to disable sleep for my monitor completely).

Programs failing to launch (when this happens just have to leave the machine for 5 mins and all the stuff I tried to launch starts together).

USB devices suddenly stop working. Unplug/replug sorts it.

And more besides. Perhaps it's because I'm on a z77 motherboard, which is getting old now. But win10 is full of bugs for me. Clean install, naturally.
 
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