Germaine Greer on Transexuality

Woden said:
What on earth has paedophilia have to do with gender dysphoria?
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Everything really. (Unfortunately*)

Its all part of the "Rainbow"

LBGT activists have been riding the same bus as the PIE since the 70's (or even before)

The fact that the likes of Harriet "There is no evidence that Sex with Children causes lasting harm" Harmen not only still have jobs but actually have jobs in the senior management of the nation is actually really rather disturbing!

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And I do mean unfortunately. Ladyboys etc may be a bit creepy, but in the main they are not dangerous. But if you ride the same bus as people who are dangerous then you do run the risk of being judged accordingly!
 
I agree with her, plus there really is no such thing as genetic destiny, the LGBT community is learned unhealthy behaviour and it is gross misconduct, it really is impropriety, it is indecorous behaviour and actions, it is a deviation from all that is natural human behaviour between proper natural men and proper natural women, this world really is sick, it needs cleansing and healing.
 
kedge said:
I agree with her, plus there really is no such thing as genetic destiny, the LGBT community is learned unhealthy behaviour and it is gross misconduct, it really is impropriety, it is indecorous behaviour and actions, it is a deviation from all that is natural human behaviour between proper natural men and proper natural women, this world really is sick, it needs cleansing and healing.
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nah thats religion
 
Hitman_Leon said:
I did not say that was one of her points, I said she made some good points.

Original physical gender (as nature intended before any intervention) as a baseline is not artificially created. Artificially created physical gender happens post treatment. You may also refer to mental gender as naturally occurring but as is now accepted mental gender may not match physical gender.
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I mostly agree with you but the confusion is arising because you are using the word gender in place of the word sex. Sex is, e.g. male / female. Gender is a social construct, e.g. "Masculine" and "Feminine". We have two different terms because in discussions like this it becomes necessary to distinguish between physical characteristics and how society defines people.

Hence my comments earlier on about wanting to change sex being a psychological problem rather than a physical one if what is really being sought is a change of gender. However, that said it's pretty obvious what you were trying to say and Permabanned surely knows what you actually meant.
 
kedge said:
That's some reply there lad, are you really the milky bar kid?
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well peoplpe doing what comes natural too them is nature.

people doing what a book written by people tells them to is not natural, its artificial.


but it is a good way for people like you to spew your poisonous bile and still feel morally superior to others i suppose.

but hey at the end of the day its not me whos gonna have to answer why i ignored all the teachings of love and instead decided to be a dick, thats gonna be your show big guy.
 
Thompson_NCL said:
The "social construct" definition of gender is the construct of a pedo pursuing his own twisted agenda. Its nonsense.
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What the Hell? I sincerely hope you are not trying to come in on "our" side of the debate (so much as there are sides here). Because we don't want you. Whatever alien planet you got your understanding of "gender" from, it's not the one used on Earth.

kedge said:
I agree with her, plus there really is no such thing as genetic destiny, the LGBT community is learned unhealthy behaviour and it is gross misconduct, it really is impropriety, it is indecorous behaviour and actions, it is a deviation from all that is natural human behaviour between proper natural men and proper natural women, this world really is sick, it needs cleansing and healing.
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Why am I getting flashbacks to the film Taxi Driver with Robert Deniro? Homosexuality is "learned behaviour"? You've never noticed that a lot of gay men and lesbian women actually physically look gay or lesbian (and I'm not talking about short hair-cuts). You think that someone's sexual attraction can just do a 180 by them picking it up from somewhere? How the Hell do you possibly arrive at such conclusions?
 
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h4rm0ny said:
What the Hell? I sincerely hope you are not trying to come in on "our" side of the debate (so much as there are sides here). Because we don't want you. Whatever alien planet you got your understanding of "gender" from, it's not the one used on Earth.



Why am I getting flashbacks to the film Taxi Driver with Robert Deniro? Homosexuality is "learned behaviour"? You've never noticed that a lot of gay men and lesbian women actually physically look gay or lesbian (and I'm not talking about short hair-cuts). You think that someone's sexual attraction can just do a 180 by them picking it up from somewhere? How the Hell do you possibly arrive at such conclusions?
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What like handlebar moustaches and shoulders made for dungarees?
 
The question of if a man feels inwardly a woman then you should see him as a woman or they will feel insulted made me think if an anorexic person felt they were fat would we agree with them in case they felt insulted?
 
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