Is piracy dying?

Amusingly, to the letter of the law, streaming films/tv for free isn't illegal. It's the people providing the content that are breaking the law.

No-one in the UK has ever been fined/prosecuted for "illegal streaming" because its not enforceable.
 
Burned_Alive said:
Amusingly, to the letter of the law, streaming films/tv for free isn't illegal. It's the people providing the content that are breaking the law.

No-one in the UK has ever been fined/prosecuted for "illegal streaming" because its not enforceable.
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This is why they introduced them ISP warning letters, isn't it?

Some time back I'm sure I read an article where FACT mentioned that they don't actively go looking for those who are downloading and are aiming to take down those who provide the content.
 
FML1990 said:
Not all piracy is about getting things free. It's about not getting ripped off. Or sometimes just getting things in a convenient format. Or even getting things that are hard to find.
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It's also about not having to wait months to see the latest episodes in the UK.

MW
 
Moses said:
Why does that matter? Why does it justify infringing the property rights of others?
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Piracy died for me a long time ago, mainly because I can afford to pay for games now. It's true what they say about pirates, just because I downloaded a game doesn't mean I didn't want to pay for it, I couldn't afford it and if the option to pirate wasn't there I simply wouldn't have played the game so I wouldn't have been a paying customer anyway.

With the cheap prices of digital downloads nowadays and services such as Netflix/Spotify I haven't torrented in years.
 
I think it is slightly less popular at the consumer level. A lot of the people involved at the top levels have grown up now and are bored with it all. They will always be people releasing the latest tv series and films but a lot of the very well organised piracy groups are very less active than they used to be. Now the p2p groups are more active than the more traditional warez scene, especially when it comes to prerelease stuff. Now there are next to no scene groups putting out cams. Its all p2p. There is still a lot of piracy sites out there but they are more private now and a lot more secure than they once were. Pretty much all the major sites are still active as far as i am aware. They have not realy stopped piracy, just made it less easy to access. Games and applications are still getting cracked as always and you can get anything that is released on torrents, so not much has changes realy.

The ISP blocking access and making it less easy as well as netflix and amazon prime and spotify have all helped to reduce piracy demand as well. But there still a lot of people downloading. Look at pirate bay top 100 there is still 100ks people downloading things.

With TPP in the pipeline they are seeking to hold ISP's liable for the actions of their users. This could lead to all sorts of problems for pirates and ISP and so on.
 
I have NetFlix and Amazon subscriptions; I find the pricing models for both services to be pretty spot on. If I could get everything I want from those, when I want it, then I wouldn't have the need to download anything. Sadly that's not the case, so I still fill those holes in the usual way.
 
The last time I bought pirate games was back in the PS1 days, and that was only due to the 6th month+ wait on UK releases and black border/50/60Hz speed issues.

Music I don't bother with as I use YouTube playlists and Spotify free.

Films and TV I 'acquire' since they're the most convenient for me, which incidentally I pay for. I also pay for Netflix but barely use it.
 
The scene has gone back to its roots, which is a very good thing, and something I was championing for a few years

Once your average joe found utorrent and sabnzb, even encrypted posts weren't enough to safeguard it

It's funny, as the media corporations have actually done everyone a favor

This is all I will say on the matter
 
Mr-White said:
Well I would hope they see that airing it globally would remove the need for people to pirate it and it would be a win win for everyone.

MW
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People don't pirate from needs. They do it from choice.

Just because we have to wait a little longer to watch something, doesn't automatically start giving people a right to download the content. Content which hasn't been paid for.
 
Spacedeck said:
People don't pirate from needs. They do it from choice.

Just because we have to wait a little longer to watch something, doesn't automatically start giving people a right to download the content. Content which hasn't been paid for.
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People pay for Netflix/love film but change their DNS to the US

MW
 
Moses said:
You talk about a need... do you need to watch Homeland a week or two before it's aired here, for example? No. People might want that, but it's not as though they're being deprived of access to something of fundamental importance... they just have to be patient, but people refuse to be and then hilariously justify infringing the property rights of another as though they have the moral high ground...
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But that's exactly why the current situation is retarded. As a hypothetical example, if I illegally download a copy of a show which has been aired in the US and will be added to UK Netflix in a weeks time, has anyone really lost out? I've already paid my Netflix sub, Netflix has paid the content creator. No one has lost out financially.

Where is the harm?
 
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