Don't forget that they'll be re-drawing the constituency boundaries to ensure a permanent Tory majority in the House of Commons as well
Lords defeat government over tax credits cut
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Don't forget that they'll be re-drawing the constituency boundaries to ensure a permanent Tory majority in the House of Commons as well
He wants something simple that retarded people can start parroting at the next election.
One thing I've never understood with the government rhetoric is they are the party that will "increase wages". I work in the private sector, and I don't understand how the government can increase my wage - it's at my employer's discretion. And I haven't seen many co-workers switching jobs for a salary increase in the last five years or so - people seem stuck, both in their jobs and their housing situation.
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Craft a phrasing of tax law that would encourage facebook to pay more?
Or any major corp who base themselves elsewhere?
At least with the NMW rising to NLW it'll force them to start paying their staff (not facebook, the others) and stop the taxpayer subsidising the 16 hour a week zero hour contracted topped up with working family and child tax credit starbuck barrista.
So how you phrase the law? In a way that it applied to all corporations.
So people should wait until the 'sensible' time to have children? Tell me, what are your thoughts on immigration?
Let's not go there.
We know that having children is necessary. But many of us would like to see the burden of paying for them fall less on the state (as much as possible).
Having children shouldn't mean you get a free ride, and thousands of pounds of state aid every year. Well, unless you're genuinely unlucky.
It shouldn't be "the norm" that people with kids can only exist with state aid.
I would have thought it was obvious. We already have a low birth rate in this country. You can't punish people for not having kids unless their circumstances are ideal unless you're willing to accept an increase in immigration to pay for us all in our old age.
You want to abort babies to cut down on Tax Credits?
not necessarily - it is a useful side effect though
can help cut crime and reduce poverty too
There are strong voting trends by age, income group & socio-economic class a singular Google search away.
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The state is spinning plates at this point. It doesn't matter what they do to some extent. Long term they have the unfunded liabilities and debt and a continued growth in government over the last 50 years. If they are not capable of keeping within the budget then how far should it go? Should we do what the labour would want and do no cuts, just spend twice as much as they take in? How far should the government go with their debt and unfunded liabilities before we reach a point where they have to reduce their spending.
One solution would be to completely remove these tax credits, if that is the endeavour to begin with but at the same time double the tax threshold to £20k. Giving the lower classes a massive instant pay rise and hardly affecting the total income received by tax and in the larger context. What difference does it make to reduce the tax base when the state is already is running a deficit every year and is in over their head with unfunded liabilities and debt to private bankers.
Something else that would help the lower classes is a decrease in vat, as most rich people will buy things via a company and not pay vat. The poor people buying their TV and their toaster are paying extra for spending. It still makes little sense to tax spending and income at the same time, economically speaking. I think taxing one or the other would have better results. I am still not aware of any justification for the increase in vat from 17.5% to 20%. If the Keynesian model thinks spending is the root of the economy, then it should be incentivising it. Instead they discourage spending through VAT.
One solution would be to completely remove these tax credits, if that is the endeavour to begin with but at the same time double the tax threshold to £20k. Giving the lower classes a massive instant pay rise and hardly affecting the total income received by tax and in the larger context. What difference does it make to reduce the tax base when the state is already is running a deficit every year and is in over their head with unfunded liabilities and debt to private bankers.
Something else that would help the lower classes is a decrease in vat, as most rich people will buy things via a company and not pay vat. The poor people buying their TV and their toaster are paying extra for spending. It still makes little sense to tax spending and income at the same time, economically speaking. I think taxing one or the other would have better results. I am still not aware of any justification for the increase in vat from 17.5% to 20%. If the Keynesian model thinks spending is the root of the economy, then it should be incentivising it. Instead they discourage spending through VAT.
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Everyone pays NI, maybe these poor pensioners should shoot you ?
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Is this really true? So if Alan Sugar wants a new sofa he gets one of his businesses to buy as a business expense? Sounds a bit risky to save yourself a few quid, committing fraud that is (and the potential ramifications of it).
If it does happen a lot, it's not an argument to reduce VAT but for the Inland Revenue to enforce VAT rules more stringently. If you run a website design business and 'your business' buys a new Porsche then the IR need to question that.
If expensive 'home electronics' are bought by someone who owns a factory as a 'business expennse', the IR should do an unannounced visit to ask where that 50" 4K Sony curved TV is being used on site exactly...etc
I agree. What are you planning to do in order to achieve the radically more equal society that would require?
I thought everybody knew someone who does this
Any time they want a new PC, it's a business expense. Furniture - business expense.Not sure you can get away with things like a PS4... but many purchases are easily written down as business expenses. I mean, prove that a new PC isn't? Inland Revenue aren't going to check to see if it has dual TitanX graphics cards now, are they? Just looks like a PC to them.
To Facebook!
In seriousness, apart from voting, there isn't a whole lot any of us can do. Maybe write to your MP. Which I won't
Nope, doing nothing myself personally. Doesn't mean I can't agree/disagree with some govt proposal tho. Does mean my opinion is next to worthless, I agree.
Nail. Head. Close thread