Extra planet next to the sun...Nibiru?

shroomz said:
Sadly not, nutters like Jim Carrey don't help when they lend it credibility. Combined with the exponential growth of antibiotic resistant bacteria strains, many people will start dying again from simple infections within our lifetimes and more complicated ones we'd thought long-gone. It's actually a very big problem, but it doesn't seem to get much air-time. Maybe because you can't have a "War on Bacteria".
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Hmm unfortunately I believe I'll be alive to see that come to fruition :(. I'll be struck down because some plebs didn't realise a cold cant be cured by antibiotics. Wish they'd bring back placebos and remove the fear of prescribing them(within reason).

glen8 said:
some conspiracy theories are true. You'd have to be a right idiot not to believe that.

governments have secrets to protect its citizens
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O yeah clearly some will turn out to be true but the severe lack of credible proof in the overwhelming majority means the somewhat credible ones get drowned out.
 
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Glaucus said:
Everythings toxic, it's the quantities to cause damage that is important. And this is where anti vaxxers get it so wrong.
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No, that is where the concern exists. As children are receiving many vaccines in one sitting, this causes the risk of toxicity to increase dramatically. Also, certain preservatives ie thermosol which are still used in the US are banned in the EU.

Incidentally the US is the most vaccinated country, and some states are right at the top for autism rates globally - second only to Japan.
 
Good god, there's zero link between vaccines and autism, as proved by EVERY SINGLE study.

And no many vaccines doesn't increase the toxicity as even with many multiple vaccines it's well within safe limits.
 
oulton said:
Incidentally the US is the most vaccinated country, and some states are right at the top for autism rates globally - second only to Japan.
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Could that also be linked to the genetics that make up said states? Maybe the environment?

Since they dont seem to know what causes autism how can it be pegged to vaccines?

I've had every vaccine possible yet I and many, many millions are still standing.
 
Mynight said:
Could that also be linked to the genetics that make up said states? Maybe the environment?

Since they dont seem to know what causes autism how can it be pegged to vaccines?

I've had every vaccine possible yet I and many, many millions are still standing.
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Genetics, and Hiroshima ofc :D

Me too - even got a rabies vaccine when I went to South America.
 
Mynight said:
I didn't even think about Hiroshima :(. Well there's our environmental cause.


Oo rabies? I heard that is straight to the gut :(.
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Yeah the vaccine only extends the time window before you start biting people - if bitten you still have to get the plastic ball in the gut thing. - I got it because part of the trip was spending 2 weeks in the jungle and it was recommended.

Must admit I do enjoy a good conspiracy theory. Some of them are obviously the imaginations of people with too much time on their hands, but others I find quite credible.

This is a good watch regarding planet X.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bK_zndhEnSM
 
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Mynight said:
Well, sad for their children.
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How so? My dad was one of these parents, he basically refused to let the hospital jab stuff into me as a baby eg MMR vaccine. However on the other side of the family my dads brother had two kids, BOTH had the MMR vaccine and mysteriously developed severe autism and tbh have ridiculously weak immune systems and heavy learning difficulties, the girlfriend of my dads brother has no history of autism in the family, so to me its patently not a genetic thing. I'm rarely ill, have an amazing metabolism which people berate me for and generally have a freakin' ace immune system which quickly deals with any problems.

I thank my dad everyday for not allowing the hospital to mess up my immune system before it even had chance to develop. The pro-vaccine people.....its THEIR children I feel sorry for.
 
Glaucus said:
Good god, there's zero link between vaccines and autism, as proved by EVERY SINGLE study.

And no many vaccines doesn't increase the toxicity as even with many multiple vaccines it's well within safe limits.
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As a scientist this 1000X times.

Even my mother questions this at times, although, to be fair she is a creationist and doesn't believe in carbon dating either...so hardly sound of mind.
 
CosmicClown said:
How so? My dad was one of these parents, he basically refused to let the hospital jab stuff into me as a baby eg MMR vaccine. However on the other side of the family my dads brother had two kids, BOTH had the MMR vaccine and mysteriously developed severe autism and tbh have ridiculously weak immune systems and heavy learning difficulties, the girlfriend of my dads brother has no history of autism in the family, so to me its patently not a genetic thing. I'm rarely ill, have an amazing metabolism which people berate me for and generally have a freakin' ace immune system which quickly deals with any problems.

I thank my dad everyday for not allowing the hospital to mess up my immune system before it even had chance to develop. The pro-vaccine people.....its THEIR children I feel sorry for.
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A rather anecdotal fallacy there but I'll bite what proof do you have that the MMR vaccine caused this? Or is it a 1+1=3 job?
 
CosmicClown said:
And this is precisely the problem. People have an unwavering trust for what they are told by the TV/Newspapers. Learn to think for yourself.
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but that's the only information I have

unless I could somehow save up enough money to fly to the USA and work my way into an interview with Buzz Aldrin. Then how do I know he's telling the truth? Hook him up to a lie detector machine, can't work one.
 
CosmicClown said:
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So you think the autism in your family is due to a jab and the people with no autism is due to no jab?

That your metabolism and immunity is great because of no jab?

Do you hold your experiences as fact and disregard everyone else?


I cant comment too much on vaccine problems because i have no qualifications in it but i can draw conclusions from many many studies.

As for space related conspiracies, i am qualified and find most of them out right ridiculous.
 
CosmicClown said:
And this is precisely the problem. People have an unwavering trust for what they are told by the TV/Newspapers. Learn to think for yourself.
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There's "think for yourself" by reading numerous scientific studies and creating an opinion based on facts and multiple sources or there's "think for yourself" which you did above :D.

I'd be happy to read any information you have on it as long as its more substantial than your own experience.
 
Mynight is an example of a reasonable human being with a lack of knowledge in said subject yet possesses the willingness to weigh up credible evidence to make an informed decision.

CosmicClown is not.
 
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