**** The Official Google Nexus 6P Thread ****

the less than helpful google cs tells me my order hasn't progressed, well I can see that for myself! ill give them until Friday to give a confirmed date or I'm out, z5 and xforce make decent alternatives
 
Graphite with leather skin looks plush


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Was surpriesed that I finally got a shipped email today for my 64GB Alum. It's getting delivered to my home address tomorrow and I'm at work!!! Oh well, tomorrow evening it is :D
 
Flip on a stick, my order has shipped!

Although, I'm still inclined to use it a few days and decide if it does warrant being kept or returned (to be fair this was the intention anyway if you guys recall 3 weeks back :p).
 
Blimey this thread moved quick when I last checked it this morning! I got my shipping notice at some point today whilst I was out in London. Parcelfarce tracking number shows that it's at a 'National hub'. I'll be stunned if it arrives tomorrow.

I'm just a bit nervous about defects and issues now due to increased production at Hawhawiai.
 
The below is from android police regarding that idiot and his phone bending videos (since a few of you folks still seem terribly concerned):



We realize many of our readers will be rightly shocked to discover that the Nexus 6P is in fact not unbreakable, and that it is especially vulnerable at its weakest point around the power button. Apparently, this point lines up with where the battery and motherboard meet, and so it only requires the strength and willpower of an adult Homo sapiens to render the phone unusable. This is undeniably a grave concern to many potential owners, and so we went ahead and created a handy flowchart for you to be able to judge if this is going to be a problem.

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We have yet to find any feasible workarounds for current owners, but some have reported that simply not trying to snap your phone in half actually solves the issue entirely. So far, we've been unable to confirm this with official sources. Others claim to have had mixed results with being too weak to bend several layers of metal, and some have even suggested that behaving like a sane human being will do the trick. We're quite skeptical of that last one.
 
:D^

The only "issue" with the 5X and 6P I can genuinely see is where people have been stocking up on 3rd party (and 1st party in the case of OnePlus) TypeA/B to C cables cables which are not fully USB Type-C compliant.

They have a 10KOhm resister instead of a 56KOhm one so the cable tells the phone that it can pull up 3A when the charger it is connected to isn't 3A but lower, and the phone requests 3A through the cable from the charger resulting in the charger slowly killing itself and in the process "potentially" damaging the phone, or frying the cable.

The topic was posted about earlier for sure, but it's worth keeping in mind.

The bottom line is, avoid all USB A/B to C dongles/adapters, as none of them are compliant for charging purposes with the above in mind. Orzly cables are not compliant, OnePlus cables are not compliant either as the OP2 draws 2A, so their cables are specced for up to 2A only. The iOrange cables are compliant, as are monoprice and a handful of others.

The solution is to focus on USB C to C only cables and chargers/battery banks with C ports. It's hard to get C to C stuff wrong, as no resistor is needed.
 
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I've ordered the Beklin Type C.

From the manufacturer
Belkin 2.0 USB-A to USB-C Charge Cable
Quickly Charge Your Mobile Devices
The cable can also provide a robust and reliable charge to your mobile devices. Delivering up to 3 amps of power output, it can charge USB-C devices rapidly, even if you're in the middle of a file transfer.

Recommend from the Google engineer.
 
No the risk is in using a lower Amp charger, that above cable will almost certainly be a non compliant one, the adapter definitely will be unsuitable for use with charging and probably even data transfer if the phone is being told by the adapter it can draw 3A from a PC's USB port (!).

Essentially those cables and adapters will be identifying themselves as fast charge capable via USB Power Delivery, even if the charge source isn't - Which will result in overdrawing the charger, which could kill it, fry it, cause damage to the phone etc.
 
mrk said:
No the risk is in using a lower Amp charger, that above cable will almost certainly be a non compliant one, the adapter definitely will be unsuitable for use with charging and probably even data transfer if the phone is being told by the adapter it can draw 3A from a PC's USB port (!).

Essentially those cables and adapters will be identifying themselves as fast charge capable via USB Power Delivery, even if the charge source isn't - Which will result in overdrawing the charger, which could kill it, fry it, cause damage to the phone etc.
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That doesnt make sense. Think about it.
The only way to burn out the connector/charger as has been suggested by the Google engineer is using a 3A charger over a cable that isnt 3A.
If the charger is 1A, then it doesnt matter what the phone or cable thinks, it will only output 1A, so thus no chance of burning out the charger, phone or cable.

His example of a 3A charger with a 2A cable into a 3A phone, when the cable reports as 3A capable when its not makes sense, the cable becomes the weak link, thus causing a chance of burn out.
 
From what I've understood from today's reddit thread based on that engineer's recent reviews and comments on the cables (note that he doesn't go into specific details, merely states that "this cable is out of spec") is that there are two things here to note though, the above which you mention, the cable will burn out, but in that situation the charger won't be affected. The 2nd part is that a charger that isn't 3A, say only 2A, used with a Type A to C cable that identifies as 3A capable to the phone. So when the trio are connected together, the phone sees that the cable is reporting it can deliver 3A, so it attempts to pull down 3A from a 2A source, which obviously won't work and will strain out the charger.

There would be a mix in this as well, as a potential burn relies on the use of non smart mains USB chargers. Those QC2.0 compatible chargers have smart USB ports that negotiate the correct charging current based on the cable used and the handshake at each end. With a QC2.0 phone this is easy, and will work with any cable as QC2.0 is up to 2.4A with varying voltages. From what I've read so far, those QC2.0, or smart chargers, won't fall foul of being overdrawn the same way as their circuitry would stop this from happening.
 
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so it attempts to pull down 3A from a 2A source, which obviously won't work and will strain out the charger.
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I see what you are saying, but it doesn't work like that.
You cannot make a charger give more than it can, i don't care whats at the other end. Its just not possible as far as i can see.
Perhaps if the charger has the control channel back to identify it as, say a QC 1.0 charger, but even in that scenario, it still cant give more than its rated to, no matter how much the device demands.
The cable is just a transport mechanism, nothing more.

If i get chance, i'll ask one of the engineers at work tomorrow, they are likely to know this kind of thing better than us both. :)
 
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