Poll: Is the 'gender pay gap' a real thing?

Should a woman with the same skill/experience doing the same role/hours be paid at the same rate as

  • Yes

    Votes: 127 66.1%

  • No

    Votes: 37 19.3%

  • I'm not sure

    Votes: 21 10.9%

  • No, but only because that answer suits me and not because it's right

    Votes: 7 3.6%
  • Total voters
    192
J.T said:
Except the Original question you fluffed up and it ended in "as" instead of "Men"...

Or have I slipped into an alternate dimension.....again! :(
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I don't know what you mean. I didn't fluff anything up, the forum just cut it off because it has a character limit.

It still ends with 'as' for me :)
 
Gilly said:
No, really, it has. I know, because I wrote it.

The only difference was the title of the thread and the question on the poll. Neither has changed.
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Indeed, but it's utterly obvious people are coming in to vote based on the thread title, oh well, that'll please 'resident lefties' referred to in the post that spawned the poll.
 
Gilly said:
I don't know what you mean. I didn't fluff anything up, the forum just cut it off because it has a character limit.

It still ends with 'as' for me :)
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See edit in my above post Gilly...

Sorry to have troubled you boss! :)
 
I'm all for equal pay for equal work based on performance reviews.

What I am not ok with is "that job should be given to a woman" or "more women should be given powerful jobs" such as that you've seen with the new Labour leader and his cabinet. It should be "the right person for the right job" regardless of their gender.
 
Using comedians as a example, we see the token woman now on every panel show because they have no choice but to include them, they're clearly not there because they're funnier than the men, because they most certainly are not.

This is now very much the case in most businesses and this mentality which is being forced.

If I was a woman I would find that pretty offence, your here because we need to include a woman, it's hilarious because it's saying your not good enough to be here on ability but we need woman to make up the numbers.

They call this progress. :D
 
'Affirmative Action' (have racial quotas for companies to meet) was put in place in South Africa many years ago.

Whilst the idea seems nice in a hippy conceptual kinda way, it actually has had a massively detrimental effect on businesses as many people lacking the skills/qualifications for their roles are getting roles because the company has to make up the numbers.

Obviously the race issue in South Africa is bigger and more recent than woman's rights issues, so current generations of women (under 40 at a guess) are more likely to have the same opportunities and experiences as men. Go back further, where you older super-senior board member types are, and it is trickier for women to have achieved the same given the gender bias from when they were students and new to the employment sector.
 
Takes generations to get over that sort of problem. I, personally, believe the problem has been resolved and we are now seeing it eradicated through natural attrition
 
balky12 said:
I don't see what your point is?

Beauticians, hairdressing, HR, PA/EA's, Air stewardesses, and not typical aspirational roles for males?

Hardly a problem is it?

Shock horror, males and females have different interests. Why does it NEED to be 50/50? Want to have that career, do it.
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But is that difference in interest purely a inherited social constraint, or is it particular in the gender? Now, tread carefully here :)

It wouldn't be the first time mentalities change. The upper echelon of the medical profession was purely a man thing, as was politics, academia, scientific research, engineering. Now the opportunities have leveled massively.

I'm really not a fan of positive discrimination. It does more harm than good. I'd rather promote equal opportunity, work on the pay gap if that is a real thing, attitudes of the education system, employers and the workforce, and a more balanced workplace environment. And from what I can see, that's where we're heading.
 
I thinks its pretty close to equal, the trouble is this research is so poor quality, it should never get accepted.

You have to take account of career breaks for women to have children, imp that probably accounts for 90% of the pay inequality. And as such isn't inequality.
Paternity leave should be identical to maternity, and it will then slowly resolve itself, since paternity leave became a real thing, increasing number of men are having the career breaks and as such their salaries will see the same dip.
 
Doesn't help that girls are from a young age groomed to be mothers/housekeepers/other such roles that toys/films/etc push.

It's all the old-school tomboys who are excelling in their fields now :p
 
krooton said:
Doesn't help that girls are from a young age groomed to be mothers/housekeepers/other such roles that toys/films/etc push.

It's all the old-school tomboys who are excelling in their fields now :p
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Studies have shown this is not true. Even the youngest children (those with the least socialising) choose toys that fit traditional sex roles. It's not society making girls become mothers, home-makers and so forth, but women.

I think that the issue is more that we as a society don't give those women enough respect. We regard women who stay at home and take care of the house and kids as somehow inferior. That is the problem.
 
Thompson_NCL said:
Studies have shown this is not true. Even the youngest children (those with the least socialising) choose toys that fit traditional sex roles.
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You're saying that a 2 year old girl has a natural desire to be a 'mother' and look after a 'baby'?
 
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