Poll: Is the 'gender pay gap' a real thing?

[Glaucus]

Its right above the poll

Which isn't in the op, and after it says view results. It's totally different to what op is saying and thread title.

 

[Gilly]

Which isn't in the op, and after it says view results. It's totally different to what op is saying and thread title.

The question is there all the time, not just after you have voted, right above the options

I have now closed the poll

 

[CREATIVE!11]

goddamn op...I read the question wrong

 

[Gilly]

127 yes?

OCUK i'm disappointed seriously. How much have any of you actually read up on this before voting yes / no?

It's this public perception that just feeds into it and keeps it alive, but I guess if it's shoved in your face 24//7 how a gender pay gap must exist you just begin to believe it as truth.

That's not what the poll was asking ahead of being closed.

The question was asked as to whether a woman with the same skills/experience as a man doing the same job at the same level should be paid the same wage.

 

[dowie]

why are you disappointed that 127 people feel men and women should be paid the same?

 

[CREATIVE!11]

That's not what the poll was asking ahead of being closed.

The question was asked as to whether a woman with the same skills/experience as a man doing the same job at the same level should be paid the same wage.

Yes I just noticed and was like ffs...

I took it was "does a pay gap exist" and voted no.

And yes of course people should be paid the same, that's a no brainer.

why are you disappointed that 127 people feel men and women should be paid the same?

On your bike dowie.

 

[Glaucus]

The question is there all the time, not just after you have voted, right above the options

I have now closed the poll

Didn't say it wasn't shown. Its clear a lot missed it, as I did. Which is pretty easy to do, when a line starts with general forum blurb, you tend to skip reading the rest.. Not bothered by it, just got an hour to kill before work.

 

[krooton]

The question is there all the time, not just after you have voted, right above the options

I have now closed the poll

I read the OP before the poll existed though, so assumed the poll to be based on the title

 

[CREATIVE!11]

I read the OP before the poll existed though, so assumed the poll to be based on the title

In general you would assume that to be the case.

 

[Gilly]

You know what they say about assumption

 

[bayo000]

C'mon Gilly just admit you messed up

 

[dowie]

I do wonder if it would be better to just let thread starters simply add polls themselves when posting the thread.

 

[Gilly]

C'mon Gilly just admit you messed up

Now who is silly?!

If you read the thread you'll see that I suggested a new one before adding the poll.

I do wonder if it would be better to just let thread starters simply add polls themselves when posting the thread.

The forum software doesn't allow it, as I understand it

 

[Schlong&Stable]

The forum software doesn't allow it, as I understand it

It does. 100% certain of that.

 

[Skidder]

My wife was (and I'm sure will be again) an extremely successful woman but hasn't worked a day since my warrior's seed produced a sprog. That was 7 years ago. She has put her career on bricks. That plays it's part.

 

[Avenged7Fold]

My wife was (and I'm sure will be again) an extremely successful woman but hasn't worked a day since my warrior's seed produced a sprog. That was 7 years ago. She has put her career on bricks. That plays it's part.

How dare you and your chauvinistic brothers create a culture where she is forced to become a slave to raise your male children so they too may one day oppress other women.

#MumsNetUnite #TumblrWarrior

Seriously though, its quite obvious that people like Skidders wife made the choice to put their career on hold to look after their children. The choice is not made by a male mass which expects women to be stay at home mothers but rather by the individual.

 

[Gilly]

It does. 100% certain of that.

Sorry, as an extension to that statement, I know that it does but I was under the impression it requires other things that weren't see as an option in the past.

 

[Burnsy2023]

Studies have shown this is not true. Even the youngest children (those with the least socialising) choose toys that fit traditional sex roles. It's not society making girls become mothers, home-makers and so forth, but women.

Source to studies please.

Well I don't think it's very masculine for a man to play the part of primary caregiver whilst the women acts as the provider.

Just as well not many people care what you think, I certainly don't subscribe to your ideals of masculinity.

 

[silvercut]

maybe it's just headline grabbing bull**** or maybe there is a gender pay gap...

 

[Tom0]

Source to studies please.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2583786/

I think this is the original experiment that leads to the perception in question.

My opinion, there was a gender pay gap. Now (last 5 years or so), it isn't that bad and shouldn't be.