prime doesnt like me...

jbh110tdi · 10 Nov 2015 at 00:30

so I can run realbench stress and play games all day long without a problem and can even run IBT on my overclocked 4690k but within 30 seconds of running prime I get a BSOD!!

I only tried running it tonight for the first time as I say everything else is fine

zipp0r · 10 Nov 2015 at 07:21

your overclock isnt stable and you need to add more vcore

Nickolp1974 · 10 Nov 2015 at 07:51

Ufor my 24/7 stable system i just add 2 more clicks of vcore after passing real bench and never had a crash.

Forget prime, do you play it often??

jbh110tdi · 10 Nov 2015 at 09:22

I was double checking my bios settings and doing a bit of reading up. I noticed folk saying to disable the c states... so I done this and can now run prime without putting my vcore up.

whyscotty · 10 Nov 2015 at 09:33

If memory serves, Intel doesn't recommend using prime on Haswell.

If you don't crash during normal use - your stable IMHO

hyperseven · 10 Nov 2015 at 09:44

run realbench loops or occt.

jbh110tdi · 10 Nov 2015 at 10:31

hyperseven said:
run realbench loops or occt.

alls good with real bench and occt its just prime that was giving me the bsod

Glanza · 10 Nov 2015 at 10:59

If your not crashing whilst gaming or any other time apart from running Prime don't worry about it.

This never ends well · 10 Nov 2015 at 11:12

^^^^^^^ This or run realbench for 4hours plus max memory.

jbh110tdi · 10 Nov 2015 at 11:35

yea everything is sweet in games and ive never got a problem untill I try prime.
I wouldn't say my temps are high either. with real bench I get around 67c tops during gaming its around 55c

EXxx · 10 Nov 2015 at 11:56

whyscotty said:
If memory serves, Intel doesn't recommend using prime on Haswell.

If you don't crash during normal use - your stable IMHO

jamiehard1989 said:
^^^^^^^ This or run realbench for 4hours plus max memory.

jbh110tdi said:
yea everything is sweet in games and ive never got a problem untill I try prime.
I wouldn't say my temps are high either. with real bench I get around 67c tops during gaming its around 55c

so...
The thing with Haswell and Prime is that Prime is outright bashing Haswell with AVX instructions. Which no real life apps do to that extent.

With that being said if your overclock doesn't handle at least 15 minutes in Prime/IBT, than you might stumble upon a BSOD at some point. That's from my experience.

when i did the testing for my 4790k I did it this way:
if it passes 15-30 minutes of Prime/IBT then run realbench and then the intel xtreme tunning tool for a couple of hours.
Usually if there was a crash to be had, Prime/IBT caught it. I never had a crash in realbench on some settings that passed prime/ibt for 30 minutes.

No one is saying to run ibt/prime for hours (like everyone did with the previous generations) just do it to test 2 things:
1) your absolute MAX temperature you will get.
2) if your system has oc stability.

jbh110tdi · 10 Nov 2015 at 12:25

as I said above ive disabled the c states in the bios and can now run prime without a bsod.

it idles a bit hotter now that ive one this. is that normal? my idle temps have went from about 27c to 31c

EXxx · 10 Nov 2015 at 12:48

disabling c states will make your proc not drop down frequency, thus it's normal for the idle temps to rise a little.
ehm but why not try increasing the vcore a bit, and enabling c states? maybe update bios?

jbh110tdi · 10 Nov 2015 at 15:09

EXxx said:
maybe update bios?

checked my bios it was f7 newest being f9. so I updated it.. didint realise that would delete my profile from the bios.. maybe I should have saved it to usb..

so the fun starts again

FloppyPoppy · 10 Nov 2015 at 15:35

To be honest prime is something avoided by me now it really has become a bad tool and puts a un realistic load on the CPU and can in fact degrade/damage your CPU. Aida64 or realbench are much better alternatives

This isn't just my opinion it's commonly warned about.

jbh110tdi · 10 Nov 2015 at 15:43

harry5522 said:
To be honest prime is something avoided by me now it really has become a bad tool and puts a un realistic load on the CPU and can in fact degrade/damage your CPU. Aida64 or realbench are much better alternatives

This isn't just my opinion it's commonly warned about.

to be honest youre not the first person ive saw saying this.
I think ill stick to realbench.

Ive not tried Aida64 but I have seen it mentioned a few times.

I only ever learned about prime through this forum and used it on my AMD cpu's

jbh110tdi · 10 Nov 2015 at 16:57

so Ive ran realbench since updating the bios an redoing my overclock.
its ran 30 minutes of realbench and max temp was 66c so I think ill leave it the way it is.
Ive not disabled the c states yet if I have any problems then ill do this.

Ill just leave prime alone as said above if it can run realbench for 30 minutes its stable

jbh110tdi · 10 Nov 2015 at 17:01

EXxx said:
With that being said if your overclock doesn't handle at least 15 minutes in Prime/IBT, than you might stumble upon a BSOD at some point. That's from my experience.

I can run IBT and realbench without any problems. so im pretty confident all is good.

If I disable the c states it will run prime but ill just leave it be unless I have a problem.

This never ends well · 10 Nov 2015 at 17:15

jbh110tdi said:
so Ive ran realbench since updating the bios an redoing my overclock.
its ran 30 minutes of realbench and max temp was 66c so I think ill leave it the way it is.
Ive not disabled the c states yet if I have any problems then ill do this.

Ill just leave prime alone as said above if it can run realbench for 30 minutes its stable

Run it for a hour just to be safe.

When i clocked mine i could run it for half hour fine but when i done it for 1 hour it failed.

jbh110tdi · 10 Nov 2015 at 17:25

jamiehard1989 said:
Run it for a hour just to be safe.

When i clocked mine i could run it for half hour fine but when i done it for 1 hour it failed.

Ill try it later tonight.

I would have thought IBT would have knocked it out worse than an hour of realbench