Feedback on today's announcement

Diddums · 11 Nov 2015 at 12:47

Pretty pathetic that people need to be instructed on how to behave.

I haven't been suspended twice for personal attacks, no sir, not me.

Skidder · 11 Nov 2015 at 13:05

dirtychinchilla said:
I'm really curious now as to what kind of crazy stuff goes on in the GPU forum!

I came to figure out why crysis was playing like I was using a viewmaster but stayed for the fanboy name calling.

Ryan-3 · 11 Nov 2015 at 13:05

JOSH86 said:
Off Topic but nice touch there, closing down the forums.

It's things like that, that make OcUK a decent place to be.

Saw this. +1 to the team at OcUK.

I would just use the southern Australian approach to the rules. If you look for their safer roads billboards you'll see what I mean.

eatcustard · 11 Nov 2015 at 13:17

Mission statement (very 90s) and badly written

C- try harder

All you need is common sense.

Mr-White · 11 Nov 2015 at 13:20

TLDR ?

MW

Burnsy2023 · 11 Nov 2015 at 13:21

eatcustard said:
All you need is common sense.

Common sense is rarely common to everyone.

eatcustard · 11 Nov 2015 at 13:24

Burnsy2023 said:
Common sense is rarely common to everyone.

I see where you are coming from

So why patronise people in the mission statement, just and put up simple rules for users to follow, if they dont do as you do and suspend/ban them.

Gilly · 11 Nov 2015 at 13:27

eatcustard said:
So why patronise people in the mission statement

What is patronising about it? There's no superiority or condescending tone intended, instead it's outlining our desire to be less reactionary and less involved.

eatcustard said:
just and put up simple rules for users to follow, if they dont do as you do and suspend/ban them.

We've been there and we've done that. It worked to a certain extent but is there no value in trying different means to improve things?

eatcustard · 11 Nov 2015 at 13:33

The Members' Charter bit

We will....
We will....
We will....
We will....

That for a start, that what you do for 10 year olds, not old gits like me.

To be fair you are dammed if you do and dammed if you dont.

the_r_sole · 11 Nov 2015 at 13:35

you just shouldn't post rules or a "charter" or whatever - then no one can complain if they get banned or posts removed

Gilly · 11 Nov 2015 at 13:36

eatcustard said:
The Members' Charter bit

We will....
We will....
We will....
We will....

That for a start, that what you do for 10 year olds, not old gits like me.

To be fair you are dammed if you do and dammed if you dont.

When that 'we' stands for everyone including me, how can it be patronising?

Patronising, as I would define it, would be speaking from a position of perceived superiority and/or being condescending.

This is an all-encompassing list covering everyone that has an account here

There certainly wasn't an intent to patronise anyone.

the_r_sole said:
you just shouldn't post rules or a "charter" or whatever - then no one can complain if they get banned or posts removed

This feels like a throwaway comment that I might not get a further response to my reply on, but do you honestly feel that if we just removed all rules and banned people when we felt like they'd strayed past an imaginary boundary based on our mood at the time and with no prior warnings, etc. that it would feel better and not at all like anarchy?

the_r_sole · 11 Nov 2015 at 13:42

Gilly said:
This feels like a throwaway comment that I might not get a further response to my reply on, but do you honestly feel that if we just removed all rules and banned people when we felt like they'd strayed past an imaginary boundary based on our mood at the time and with no prior warnings, etc. that it would feel better and not at all like anarchy?

it's what it feels like anyway, when suspensions are dished out or mods remove posts/close threads it seems to be very much at the individual mods discretion without a real consistency across the boards, with published rules it then gives rise to debating the semantics of the rules and the implementation of them, clearly very few people deliberately get a suspension.
Published rules or not, people will always have issues with the mods.
you may as well just have one rule

"try not to be too much of a ****"

McGray · 11 Nov 2015 at 13:42

Lol lame.

Schlong&Stable · 11 Nov 2015 at 13:51

dirtychinchilla said:
I think the real change should have been "we don't want to hear religious discussions or bashing of immigrants".

Seperately, though, I'm glad to see that you want to clamp down on rude people. When people say common sense, what they really mean is "I'm a rude right winger and don't like anyone who thinks that we should embrace immigrants etc."

I'd be be fine with that, if it also said "we don't want to see atheist discussions or the promotion and/or defence of immigration".

dirtychinchilla · 11 Nov 2015 at 13:53

That would indeed be fair, and that's what we get from reading between the lines.

Schlong&Stable · 11 Nov 2015 at 14:04

dirtychinchilla said:
That would indeed be fair, and that's what we get from reading between the lines.

I'm not sure I see the value in prohibiting discussion on one of the biggest issues of the 21st century. It's in the news almost daily.

Gilly · 11 Nov 2015 at 14:06

Not sure how the discussion has ended up here, but we're not seeking to stifle or prohibit any form of reasonable debate. Atheism, immigration, religion... we want to see discussion on it all. It is the 'bashing' element that needs to cease.

FrenchTart · 11 Nov 2015 at 14:07

Thompson_NCL said:
I'm not sure I see the value in prohibiting discussion on one of the biggest issues of the 21st century. It's in the news almost daily.

I think the intent of this statement is to convey that many kinds of discussion are welcome as long as the discussion is conducted in a reasonable manner that doesn't descend into being purposefully insulting.

CREATIVE!11 · 11 Nov 2015 at 14:08

I love way it's GPU forum lmao...

doofer · 11 Nov 2015 at 14:09

Gilly said:
This feels like a throwaway comment that I might not get a further response to my reply on, but do you honestly feel that if we just removed all rules and banned people when we felt like they'd strayed past an imaginary boundary based on our mood at the time and with no prior warnings, etc. that it would feel better and not at all like anarchy?

This happens often here. You have done it yourself on many occasions.

I can even remember you banning at least 15 Posters one time over a Thread involving the death of a baby in Korea(?) because the parents were playing WoW or something.

A lot of users started mocking the parents but because people were deemed by you to not be 'upset' enough at the death of the baby involved you decided to ban them, this was because you'd just had a baby yourself, you did realise the error of your ways and lift the bans after a few days, but that is a perfect example of what you are saying 'never' happens here.