** POTENTIALLY THE BEST GAMING MONITORS YET!! ** Acer 34" Ultra-wides
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No I want to see the glow. Glow is worse than BLB.
Some edge bleeding isnt a big deal, huge splotch of glow is.
An entire movie or game can be ruined by Glow.
again if you look at chippers pic on page 30 you will see some yellowing in the left hand corners which is the same as my glow, but for some reason cameras pick it up much worse than it actually is, I will try a film later when its dark and see what its like then
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I'm trying to work out if on average these predators will have less bleed than the Dell U3415W I sent back or will it be around the same seeing they use the same panels.
glow is massively subjective and individual, depending on your viewing position, viewing distance, angle of tilt, ambient light etc. you could take a picture of any modern IPS screen pretty much and make it look truly awful from a glow perspective if you wanted, so i'm not really sure what these photos will show.
I agree with badass, ive looked at some dark videos like batman and like he said it all depends on viewing angles and distance, I found the film will look fine with no glow but turn my chair to the left a bit and tilt my head and you can make the glow look quite bad and vice versa
And all it will do is scare the uninformed or browsing reader in to thinking its backlight bleed when it isn't. You see it all the time with people labelling it as a quality issue when a lot of the time it's just a bad photo done wrongly and capturing lots of glow
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I can live with and accept a bit of glow as it disappears when you move your head, its bleed which I cant really live with.
Thats ******** and you know it.
Everyone is going to be bothered playing a game like Alien Isolation when half the screen is covered in a silver/yellow/orange/blue sheen and the other half is black.
Its not "subjective"
I want a photo (video screengrab which doesnt exaggerate anything) taken at a normal distance from a normal sitting angle. I doubt many people sit with their faces glued onto their displays or 3m back. The average person sit about an armlength from their monitor.
And Baddass, please come out in the reality, IPS Glow is a problem, its not subjective. Not everyone gets cherrypicked units or sit 3m back.
What these photos would show, if you'd ask every owner to take one and submit it into like a huge archive, they'd show the percentage of getting bothersome glow.
Baddass does not seem to understand how you can take a properly(or extremely close to eye level) exposed photo even with a basic phone... video recording.
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The Dell U3415W I sent back had bleed on the left hand side should I just put this down to bad luck and order another? Or are the Dells prone this and the Acers not? If so I will order the Acer. I basically want an ultrawide with no Bleed.
Your asking for too much
for the pricetag, not really.
Its sad how TVs and lower priced monitors dont suffer from these issues as much as IPS panels. Be it BLB or Glow.
I've yet to have a TN monitor with any BLB, or a TV for that matter. Although I had an IPS TV From LG once that had a blue sheen during black.
Do you play anything dark at all?
And I wouldnt get one with the issues they currently have.
The XR34 doesn't have any issues.
And the BLB is only noticeable for me when watching something dark while in a dark room - if I have a light on or something it's waaaaay less noticeable.
you're the one who needs to come back to reality James I'm afraid. I never said IPS glow wasn't a problem. Plenty of people find it a problem for their uses.
I'm saying that asking for a photo of glow doesn't show you anything. "cheery-picking" units has absolutely nothing to do with IPS glow. the level of IPS glow does not vary from one sample to another. It's a panel characteristics related to the pixel alignment and doesn't vary. What varies is people's perception of it which is related to their viewing position, angle of line of sight, distance, ambient lighting. that's why i said it was "subjective", as it's impact will influence people in different ways. So one person's photo showing supposed glow will be different to someone else's. The only thing which can accentuate the glow a bit is if there is also some backlight bleed/clouding in the same place, typically affecting the corners.
asking for hundreds of photos from different users won't show anything other than each persons individual viewing position, camera settings, screen settings and ambient light conditions. If you're wanting to compare QC factors related to bleed, which can accentuate glow, then you'd be far better with my suggestion of a photo from 2m back, head on and with appropriate screen settings. That will give you a realistic representation of uniformity/QC issues across a range of samples which is the only thing you can really compare here. If you start adding in variables related to viewing position etc (to show IPS glow) then it will be all but meaningless. I know exactly how to take a photo from an eye level thanks. If you look at the photos in the viewing angle section of my X34 review you will see exactly what you're looking for in fact in a controlled manner:
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/acer_predator_x34.htm
There's a photo of glow across the whole screen from a wide angle, then further down a photo taken from a central position, about an arms length distance from the screen and looking towards the edge of the display. That captures the glow you will see typically from that position
will vary by sample, Dell are probably as good as anyone in terms of support so you could try another one if you were happy with the screen/specs and at least you have good support etc to back it if needed
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Been playing black ops 3, I'm on some dark levels now and its fine