Feedback on today's announcement

Nodiggidy123 · 13 Nov 2015 at 09:14

Admiral Huddy said:
Can we please change the subject and take this to a new thread is you have to..

The problem with how the thread has gone is due to lack of action in enforcing the very rules in the mission statement.

What was the point of it then? It's obviously not being followed

Would have been better rewording it to " talk to people in a way the mods find acceptable"

FrenchTart · 13 Nov 2015 at 09:16

Nodiggidy123 said:
The problem with how the thread has gone is due to lack of action in enforcing the very rules in the mission statement.

What was the point of it then? It's obviously not being followed

I don't think you can judge the entire idea of a charter by the fact that a thread has gotten out of hand.

Mods are here now and trying to get people back in line. It's not an overnight process.

lafemmefatale · 13 Nov 2015 at 09:17

Nodiggidy123 said:
The problem with how the thread has gone is due to lack of action in enforcing the very rules in the mission statement.

What was the point of it then?

Yup. We now have people deliberately offensive and dehumanising terms because they know it is offensive, with the knowledge that I've told I can't use the RTM button anymore because for some astounding reason the mod team have to 'discuss' whether the word is acceptable or not.

What an absolute ******* joke. My initial confidence in the membership charter and mission statement that this place may actually be making an attempt to shed its horrendous past image and drag its image up from gutter was obviously misplaced.

Uncle Petey · 13 Nov 2015 at 09:17

Lack of action? You mean not bowing to one person's frankly ridiculous victim mentality regarding a comment that wasn't even aimed at causing offence?

In fact, the whole thing comes across as a tantrum designed to avoid having to continue arguing a losing point.

Nodiggidy123 · 13 Nov 2015 at 09:18

FrenchTart said:
I don't think you can judge the entire idea of a charter by the fact that a thread has gotten out of hand.

Mods are here now and trying to get people back in line. It's not an overnight process.

But I see it time and time again on thses forums. People just cannot communicate in a respectful way to each other.

Nodiggidy123 · 13 Nov 2015 at 09:21

Uncle Petey said:
Lack of action? You mean not bowing to one person's frankly ridiculous victim mentality regarding a comment that wasn't even aimed at causing offence?

In fact, the whole thing comes across as a tantrum designed to avoid having to continue arguing a losing point.

Just because one person on the forum finds it offensive. Doesn't mean nobody else does.

Imagine the backlash the business could get if. Someone wanted to make a point of Ocuk is anti transgender,anti gay anti this anti that.

Participant · 13 Nov 2015 at 09:22

Uncle Petey said:
In fact, the whole thing comes across as a tantrum designed to avoid having to continue arguing a losing point.

Don't you mean 'trantrum'!!

The 'charter' does not say that anything someone finds offensive is automatically offensive, its message is that you shouldn't post with the sole intention of being offensive. Someone saying 'tranny' is not automatically trying to be offensive, so in my opinion lafemmefatale should be ignored.

lafemmefatale · 13 Nov 2015 at 09:23

FrenchTart said:
I don't think you can judge the entire idea of a charter by the fact that a thread has gotten out of hand.

It's not just this thread though, it's happened in the other thread and the one before about trans people was rife with the same kind of language and people being deliberately offensive. Nothing was done then, either.

The idea of a charter in the face of something like this shows how robust and meagningful the charter actually is, or if it's just a bunch of people paying lip service to an ideal they don't really believe in but think keeping up that appearance is the best way to go.

So far, it's looking pretty useless.

FrenchTart · 13 Nov 2015 at 09:23

Please can we stop engaging with the baiting posts?

Discussion about the announcement is fine. Discussion about the fact that the use of a word is under discussion is not.

Nothing will happen instantly. Everything takes time.

Uncle Petey · 13 Nov 2015 at 09:23

Nodiggidy123 said:
Just because one person on the forum finds it offensive. Doesn't mean nobody else does.

Imagine the backlash the business could get if. Someone wanted to make a point of Ocuk is anti transgender,anti gay anti this anti that.

That's obviously what LFF is counting on... :rolleyes:

Again, context.

It's not like it was used in any kind of derogatory manner. I'd argue that most people see it as a simple shortening of the word and nothing more.

Admiral Huddy · 13 Nov 2015 at 09:24

Nodiggidy123 said:
The problem with how the thread has gone is due to lack of action in enforcing the very rules in the mission statement.

What was the point of it then? It's obviously not being followed

Would have been better rewording it to " talk to people in a way the mods find acceptable"

There are no rules to say that people can't have an opinion.

Opening statement

We believe in allowing you, the member base of the Overclockers forums, free reign in sharing your opinions even where we do not agree with them. This is the core of healthy debate.

Whether you or anyone agrees with other peoples opinions is irrelevant. It doesn't necessarily make them a troll either... We are not here to moderate opinion.

lafemmefatale said:
Yup. We now have people deliberately offensive and dehumanising terms because they know it is offensive, with the knowledge that I've told I can't use the RTM button anymore because for some astounding reason the mod team have to 'discuss' whether the word is acceptable or not.

.

I didn't say you can't use the RTM system, I said your point was acknowledged and is being discussed so there's no need to keep reporting the same thing.

JohnnyG · 13 Nov 2015 at 09:43

There's a dedicated forum now for these issues, please use it & stop trashing threads.

el_dazza · 13 Nov 2015 at 09:43

Aww I spent ages typing out my post, it was nice too

Nodiggidy123 · 13 Nov 2015 at 09:45

The point is.

The mod team has written this mission statement and yet seemingly not enforcing it.

Was a waste of time writing it in the first place

Uncle Petey · 13 Nov 2015 at 09:46

Because it's not that clear cut.

Cosimo · 13 Nov 2015 at 09:49

Uncle Petey said:
Because it's not that clear cut.

That is why this thread is here so that we can discuss and provide comments/suggestions. All will be taken away and reviewed.

Nodiggidy123 · 13 Nov 2015 at 09:50

Or deleted.

Uncle Petey · 13 Nov 2015 at 09:51

Cosimo said:
That is why this thread is here so that we can discuss and provide comments/suggestions. All will be taken away and reviewed.

Yeah, that's kind of my point

cheesyboy · 13 Nov 2015 at 09:51

I would rather people were allowed to post like a moron, so that we can debate, educate or otherwise feel better about ourselves, than to see difficult beliefs forceably excluded. What good does it do if the only place you can be an intolerant ***** is in the corners of the internet where everyone is an intolerant *****?

Better that they can be challenged, even if their slow-wittedness doesn't allow much room for appropriate growth of thought.

el_dazza said:
Aww I spent ages typing out my post, it was nice too

Yeah, snap

Participant · 13 Nov 2015 at 09:54

So a mod suggests we take tranny chat to another thread, I start a thread, and it's immediately locked. Ooooooook

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