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Raja Koduri of AMD confirms two new 14NM/16NM GPUs next year

We know that the yields are over 80% on the GF LPP process. But we don't know where they will be fabbed or what tweaked version of a process they might be using.

There isn't enough info to say. However I'll throw out a guess and say both sides will do mid-range first and we will have to wait for high end.
 
I wonder if they mean two entirely unique GPU's or just one with a cut-down variant(ala Fury X and Fury)? The latter makes more sense to me as Fiji can still be a good upper mid-range lineup filler.

And then we'd have the Tonga cards covering the midrange at $200-250, which is pretty crazy when you consider how good they still are.
 
A bit surprised that it is only two new cores to be honest. the currant AMD line up has 6 cores, with the 200 series having 9 different cores ( I wont list all the AMD cores as they keep renaming them so it makes it difficult to see if they are different or not). By comparison NVidia's 900 series has 3 different cores (3* Maxwell) and the 700 series had 7 cores(2*Fermi 4*Kepler,1* Maxwell).

With only two new cores, there will certainly be some rebranding going on, mainly at the low end of course as is normal
 
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I wonder if they mean two entirely unique GPU's or just one with a cut-down variant(ala Fury X and Fury)? The latter makes more sense to me as Fiji can still be a good upper mid-range lineup filler.

And then we'd have the Tonga cards covering the midrange at $200-250, which is pretty crazy when you consider how good they still are.
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Fiji is a huge core and has the most to be gained from in die size/cost over any other core. Not least because interposer/HBM will be the strongest growth area in terms of design knowledge. It's the first real mass produced interposer based design so there will be a lot of information on how to make it better, get better yields, but also as said die size means it's expensive.

99% likely the two cores will be in the 200/400mm^2 areas, with a future Fiji replacement to come sometime in 2017.

So 7970/7770 type cores all coming say July/August, then a big core coming after yields improve, volume ramps and prices per wafer and per chip come down as a result.

Low end, low end is so low power, cheap, small margin and increasingly small volume that there is incredibly little to be gained by making a new small core on a highly expensive process. So some 70-120mm^2 sized low end thing isn't a priority, useful eventually as a discrete gpu with a bit more power in some laptops... if apus don't start coming with HBM in which case low end discrete gpu for laptops disappears as entirely pointless.


I expect the same from Nvidia, GTX 680/660 type cores in 2016, a Titan level core in 2017.
 
Be good Time to upgrade :) although am little confused isn't amd going bust? :p

Joking aside, would you expect these to have water cooling version? Since adding H70 to my 290 it's something I would like to do more often.
 
So two new cores, to quote the original Forbes article.

He promised two brand new GPUs in 2016, which are hopefully going to both be 14nm/16nm FinFET from GlobalFoundries or TSMC and will help make Advanced Micro Devices more power and die size competitive.
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We have to assume that it will be a new top end core with two or three cards coming form it, and the next tier down with another two or three cards from that one, that would leave maybe Tonga the currant 380 or the new renamed Antigua core 380x to fill in the lower end parts. It will probably mean another run out for Oland or Bonaire for the ultras low end, Overall it should work out ok.
 
Don't care what it is as long as it's not 28nm, :D

It's almost mad to think in a years time an all amd system could be a very attractive purchase.
 
Whatever it is, i expect the usual, lol, needs a good XXXX knocked off the price, as you can get the (insert Nvidia card here) for xxxx, what a fail, wtf are AMD doing..............
 
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So, two new cards and the stack gets a bump up, i.e some rebrands to occupy the new mid - high range, Fury X becomes new mid - high range. Top high end is new part based on 14nm/16nm..

Fury X replaced by >> 14nm/16nm GPU 'Full fat'
Fury replaced by >>14nm/16nm GPU 'Cut down'
390X replaced with >> Rebrandeon Fury X
390 replaced with >> Rebrandeon Fury
Nano >> Rebrandeon Nano..
 
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not sure they will reuse the Fiji core as it is too big, maybe re-spin it on the smaller process but then it's a new core anyway, really.
 
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