Cant decide whats best (DAS & Tests)

£70 my lid was,depends on your wallet I suppose,I used to spend silly money on helmets,a few crashes scrapes on them made me choose cheaper, still just as safe

Parts and servicing you can buy used and you learn as you go along how to maintain and fix things,plus its much more satisfying
 
Just back from my first day of DAS training, it's brilliant and so easy being on a 600+, the weight isn't an issue, once you're moving you don't recognise the extra weight, throttle is much easier to handle, not even 50% throttle and you're flying!

My advise would be don't get a 125, go straight for a big bike, I wish I had! :)
 
Just back from my first day of DAS training, it's brilliant and so easy being on a 600+, the weight isn't an issue, once you're moving you don't recognise the extra weight, throttle is much easier to handle, not even 50% throttle and you're flying!

My advise would be don't get a 125, go straight for a big bike, I wish I had! :)

Awesome! Good work man :)

Just what I wanted to hear really. My only real experience with bikes, other than riding a pit bike around a field, was my CBT a few weeks ago but those 2 hours on a 125 made me realise I wanted to go straight for the big bike test. I've heard many people say bigger bikes are easier to ride especially concerning throttle and clutch.

Glad you enjoyed it. Hopefully have mine at the end of the month. Theory in 10 days.
 
It's good reading this thread, I have never ridden anything with a motor - Except a scooter for 2 days in Sri Lanka, which was questionable at best. I've just sent off for my provisional and plan to do my CBT as soon as that appears. Then hopefully I can jump straight onto the DAS, with the idea of having a bike before next summer starts.
 
Yep biking isn't a cheap hobby! I upgraded my pc in summer (980ti) as it was well, well overdue (was running a 580!) but ironically I'm not doing much gaming now! Although now winter is here that'll change a bit. But now the pc spending is done all my spare cash will be going towards a new bike :D

It's ridiculously cheap!

Bike - £4k
Helmet - £100
Other gear - £100
Insurance & Tax pa - £500
Maintenance & Fuel pa - £300

Bike will last many years or can be sold for money. Gear will last until you trash it which is many years.

Say it becomes your mode of transport and we go for 4 years. That's about £150pcm. THat's cheap motoring and doubles up as your hobby.

Say you're a sunny sunday rider, a true hobbyist. You'll probably get 10 years out of all that! Throw in a gear change, bring maintenance down to £100 pa and it works out at about £80 pm.

A lot of that I've over-estimated too, gear can be bought second hand, bikes can be cheaper (although this could push up maintenance costs...). Insurance may vary for some bike/location dependent but it's a variable which goes down not up! The sunny sunday rider could get 6 month insurance living in this country. And you've still got an asset at the end of it!
 
£100 on kit!? One pair of my gloves alone are £80 my trousers were £150 and my jacket £270. It's no fun riding in cheap kit it done to get me started but I soon wanted to upgrade when I'm using the bike every day of the week.
 
£100 on kit!? One pair of my gloves alone are £80 my trousers were £150 and my jacket £270. It's no fun riding in cheap kit it done to get me started but I soon wanted to upgrade when I'm using the bike every day of the week.

Yes, but then it's prime purpose is not a hobby, it's transport. In which case it's still cheap! If you go out for a couple of hours a week in the summer then you only need gear to be safe
 
It's ridiculously cheap!

Bike - £4k
Helmet - £100
Other gear - £100
Insurance & Tax pa - £500
Maintenance & Fuel pa - £300

Bike will last many years or can be sold for money. Gear will last until you trash it which is many years.

Say it becomes your mode of transport and we go for 4 years. That's about £150pcm. THat's cheap motoring and doubles up as your hobby.

Say you're a sunny sunday rider, a true hobbyist. You'll probably get 10 years out of all that! Throw in a gear change, bring maintenance down to £100 pa and it works out at about £80 pm.

A lot of that I've over-estimated too, gear can be bought second hand, bikes can be cheaper (although this could push up maintenance costs...). Insurance may vary for some bike/location dependent but it's a variable which goes down not up! The sunny sunday rider could get 6 month insurance living in this country. And you've still got an asset at the end of it!

Please, show me where you can buy a jacket, trousers, boots and gloves for £100 in total? If you're a year round biker, that price level gear will last until you've frozen your arse off or got soaked to the bone on the way to work! :p then you'll realise you need some decent kit.

As an example, my first lot of textiles was the Aldi kit. It's ok stuff, but not waterproof, and not that warm. Cost for jacket and trousers was about £100.


This is what I've spent, and I'm not made of money - I do however do high miles so value decent kit.

Helmet £250
Proper goretex boots - £220
Proper goretex gloves - £100
Decent textiles that will keep you warm and dry: £180 trousers £280 jacket
Other gear - kevlar jeans x2 £200
Kriega rucksack £120

Then there's the other kit I've bought - jeather jacket £325
Kriega US30 £90

Insurance £100 (but for most new riders, £500+) Tax £40
Maintenence - Tyres £180 MOT £30
Fuel at 55mpg is 0.093p a mile. I've done 10600 miles so far this year at a cost of £1000 total

Then there's the cost of actually getting your licence, £500-£1000.

Once you've got all your kit, THEN it becomes cheap. And yes I'm sure you could if you really wanted to, get all your kit, a used helmet etc for a couple of hundred quid. But really, would you actually want to? And as I say, if you're riding in the rain or cold, £100 kit will get binned very soon after your first soaking.

For anyone starting out, don't be under the illusion that it's a cheap 'hobby'. Starting from scratch to get your DAS and get kitted up, excluding the cost of a bike and insurance, you need to budget £1000 minimum, maybe closer to £2000 if the course is near to a grand. Add a couple of grand for a bike, then £500 for insurance, and if you're still just a Sunday rider £5000+ is a lot to spend on a 'hobby'.

£300 on maintenece and fuel is a laugh :p a rear tyre is £80-£100 plus fitting, yearly MOT is £30, that leaves enough for 2000 miles of fuel, which even for the most dedicated fair weather rider isn't a lot. Espcially after spending £5000 on the bike and kit! :D
 
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That's excessive.
I've been riding my 125 for 18 months. Just passed Mod1 with Mod2 to go.
In that time I've spent:

Helmet: Duchinni D701 - £49.99
Jacket: RST Alpha II Jacket - £69.89
Trousers: RST Alpha II Jeans - £59.89
Glove: RST Slice Glove - £44.89
Yamaha YBR-125 (61) - £1,500 (bought in 2014)

Forgot to add in my Aplinestars ankle boots (not ideal but good enough) - they were @ £150. Gift from the Mrs. :)

All cheap stuff since I didn't know how it would work out (biking). The helmet scores 4/5 in the Sharp test and is surprisingly light weight. The clothing is completely waterproof - though I've since ditched the gloves for lighter summer gloves by Triumph which don't keep the water out!

Learning to ride is expensive though. Mod1 over 2 days was over £300.
 
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It's as expensive as you want it to be.

If you like wasting money then the sky is the limit, but you can have a lot of fun for very little money.

Get an older SV650 for £1500-2000 and your kit for £500 and you're having a great time for pennies in fuel and maintenance.
 
Ahh, see - so you've spent £375 on kit, plus the other gloves (you're already showing the signs of GAS - gear acquisition syndrome :p) and to be fair that stuff is about the cheapest you're gonna get semi decent kit.

I spent just over £500 on my DAS course, I've been riding 18 months now, had my licence a year, I've done around 17000 miles in that time.

125's can be a very cheap form of transport once you've got the kit, but a big bike with more expensive tyres, less mpg (50 vs 100), more expensive insurance, and so on makes biking not that cheap.

Doesn't matter to me though, the cost is well worth it - I plan to buy a bike in a year or so for £8-10k - I don't have a car, my holidays are biking holidays, mostly camping, I don't spend £50 out boozing on a Saturday night, so for me a bike or 2 is more than just transport :D
 
Oh don't get me wrong - as soon as I've got the full license my spending is going to change significantly! :)
The budget gear was just to get me through the CBT but I've stuck with it.
I also have an approx. £8k bike budget ready for next year. Listened to some advice and pottered around on the 125 for some time before tackling DAS and subsequently jumping on a bigger bike.
 
Everything becomes more expensive as time goes by,the price of a getting a licence has doubled since I did mine

Buying gear and bikes it depends, some great end of season deals on last years kit,as for bikes I think its better to buy a decent old hack as first big bike cos chances are you'll come off it or drop it at some point

And older bikes are cheaper to buy maintain and insure
 
Don't forget the money for tools and stands if you've not got them already, everyone loves tinkering with their own bike!
 
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