Overtime delayed at work due to manager mistake?

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I get paid monthly, consequentially my overtime comes then too. I have to submit my claim to my manager by the 20th of the month, then he has to pass to payroll by the 24th I believe.

I submitted my claim last month on 20th, to be paid this month today (20th). However he did not send my claim off until 2nd November. He went on leave on 22nd October and didn't return until 2nd.

I called payroll and they said 'nothing we can do your claim is in to be paid next month' (I'll get two month worth of OT next month). Where do I stand here? It's coming up to Christmas, I am also doing some serious work to my house so funds are flowing fast but I was expecting a large chunk of OT this month. Do they have any legal obligation to BACS pay me it, or anything like that? Or have I just got to wait a month?
 
Would HR not just send me back to payroll as they don't manage payments? I tried when I called payroll to get paid early but she just said no, wasn't interested. I will call them back in the morning but just wanted to see if I had anything behind me or it is just their choice.
 
I really can't see why payroll shouldn't be able or be willing to advance you the overtime you were expecting and deduct it from next months pay. If you claim not getting it this month would cause you hardship then that may help in getting it.
 
Unless it's causing you some sort of financial hardship I doubt they will do anything, but if you've got a credit card can't you just bang it on there and pay it all off next month when the money does comes through. No interest to pay then.

Maybe get your manager involved? does it breach your contract somehow?
 
I doubt highly that you have any course of action here, your basic salary has been paid so in the eyes of the company you have not been left in hardship. Anything else are extra payments and as along a it is paid next month they have fulfilled their obligation, albeit late.

Now if they had managed to not pay your basic salary and you incurred costs form your bank etc for being late with debits and the like you would be able to kick up a fuss and have them reimburse any costs incurred. other than that it is down to them.

I would just do as Aharvey said and use your CC until next month comes round for anything you may need. just make sure you pay it off in full and don't go crazy ;)
With the knowledge that you have almost zero chance of getting you'r OT this month, all you will be doing by kicking up a fuss is drawing attention to your managers incompetence, great i hear you say, he has been incompetent. Well in an ideal world he would be told don't let it happen again, chances are though no one will say jack to him and you risk the chance of him being an arse and doing it next month and the month after just to be.... an arse.

let it lie and just stay on his case in future.
 
AHarvey said:
Unless it's causing you some sort of financial hardship I doubt they will do anything, but if you've got a credit card can't you just bang it on there and pay it all off next month when the money does comes through. No interest to pay then.
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^^^ this just get a credit card instead of kicking up a fuss at work over some overtime being delayed by a month - have a word with your manager and tell him that you're unhappy about it if you like but I'd assume the payroll people, if they have a certain date by which time stuff needs to be submitted, are not going to be flexible about this two weeks or so after that date
 
Perhaps he just made a mistake? Let him know you were not aware of the delay when you see him next and polietly ask that he let's you know if there might be a delay next time. That way you can plan accordingly.
It's a perfectly reasonable request, and much better than escalating the situation and potentially causing him and yourself further issues.
Beating the guy up for an error is hardly going to endear yourself to him.
 
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Surely your contract has been breached? Somewhere in your contract should state overtime will be paid within 'X' time period. Tell them that and demand a BACS or just demand one anyway. You aren't in the wrong here whatever you do, they are, you have been promised payment and they haven't followed through. or threaten to take them to a small claims court if nothing follows through and you're that bothered.
 
Snookums said:
Surely your contract has been breached? Somewhere in your contract should state overtime will be paid within 'X' time period. Tell them that and demand a BACS or just demand one anyway. You aren't in the wrong here whatever you do, they are, you have been promised payment and they haven't followed through. or threaten to take them to a small claims court if nothing follows through and you're that bothered.
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Or, do the above, upset everyone and cause more issues. Perhaps this approach might make sense for a serial situation, but a one off? It's massive overkill..
 
Has happened to me once as well but it included a phone allowance as well as overtime. My manager had submitted it too late to be included in my pay and there is nothing payroll/hr could do about it aside for submitting it for the next month but this was because I didn't really care if I got it that month or not, I never wanted to push them for it.

However,It happened to a few employees of mine once as well but it was actually payrolls fault that it got missed but the difference for them was it was a very substantial amount which they proved to hr and payroll not having this money would cause financial problems for that month - so they got given cheques instead of waiting till the next month.
 
Phone HMRC they could be helpful in this situation, they'll give you a proper answer and if needed instruct your company to pay you straight away.

Wife had a problem with sickpay (or lack of) phone call to hmrc, hmrc phoned payroll, payroll said we cant pay straight away,hmrc said yes you can, money was paid.
 
Snookums said:
True but with most companies once you let them walk over you once, it's never ending.
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Its just a mistake and I'm sure he'll get his money next month. If it happens more than once then the OP can choose not to do any overtime or if this was affecting his salary could move to another company.
 
lude1962 said:
Phone HMRC they could be helpful in this situation, they'll give you a proper answer and if needed instruct your company to pay you straight away.

Wife had a problem with sickpay (or lack of) phone call to hmrc, hmrc phone payroll, money paid straightaway.
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I never heard of this before - what have HMRC got to do with someones overtime payment whether its paid or not
 
jimjamuk said:
I never heard of this before - what have HMRC got to do with someones overtime payment whether its paid or not
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Nothing, though lude is talking about SSP which is a statutory payment so is different, but I am still very surprised to hear HMRC got involved in that situation either
 
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