Overtime delayed at work due to manager mistake?

Has happened multiple times here for various reasons over the years (for various different reasons not all managers) ... normally you get to wait until the next month unless there is a lot of people affected.

No point of an over the top reaction to a one off.
 
These things happen in every company. People miss cut-off dates for payroll etc.

It was a mistake to expect O/T payments. You shouldn't really be relying on them. Get a credit card and pay it off next month.
 
AHarvey said:
Unless it's causing you some sort of financial hardship I doubt they will do anything, but if you've got a credit card can't you just bang it on there and pay it all off next month when the money does comes through. No interest to pay then.

Maybe get your manager involved? does it breach your contract somehow?
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Kanifee said:
I doubt highly that you have any course of action here, your basic salary has been paid so in the eyes of the company you have not been left in hardship. Anything else are extra payments and as along a it is paid next month they have fulfilled their obligation, albeit late.

Now if they had managed to not pay your basic salary and you incurred costs form your bank etc for being late with debits and the like you would be able to kick up a fuss and have them reimburse any costs incurred. other than that it is down to them.

I would just do as Aharvey said and use your CC until next month comes round for anything you may need. just make sure you pay it off in full and don't go crazy ;)
With the knowledge that you have almost zero chance of getting you'r OT this month, all you will be doing by kicking up a fuss is drawing attention to your managers incompetence, great i hear you say, he has been incompetent. Well in an ideal world he would be told don't let it happen again, chances are though no one will say jack to him and you risk the chance of him being an arse and doing it next month and the month after just to be.... an arse.

let it lie and just stay on his case in future.
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jimjamuk said:
Its just a mistake and I'm sure he'll get his money next month. If it happens more than once then the OP can choose not to do any overtime or if this was affecting his salary could move to another company.
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MichaelAwkward said:
These things happen in every company. People miss cut-off dates for payroll etc.

It was a mistake to expect O/T payments. You shouldn't really be relying on them. Get a credit card and pay it off next month.
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I'm not relying on my OT payments though, saying in this case I am relying on them is like saying don't rely on my wage.

I work OT in September, submit it in October, get paid November... And so on. If I work the time, I know I am getting the money and therefore spend it.

Usually I have large savings, but started doing my bathroom out and went over budget and then expanded to 5 other rooms in the house so have spend significantly more than I would have. But, I have done a lot of OT to cover for this.

I already have a CC and use it and pay it off every month, even if the money is in the bank (Santander 123 so get cashback) so it is there to use I just didn't want to put so much on. But you say don't rely on OT, so if I put it all on CC what happens next month, I may not get paid OT.. Isn't that relying on OT? I don't need OT to live, but I've spent my disposable income, knowing what is coming in etc.

I'll try one more polite call to payroll, if it doesn't work I will have to suck it up.
 
This has happened to me a couple of times in the past. It was annoying as hell but i just had to live with it.
 
craig_t said:
I'm not relying on my OT payments though, saying in this case I am relying on them is like saying don't rely on my wage.

I work OT in September, submit it in October, get paid November... And so on. If I work the time, I know I am getting the money and therefore spend it.

Usually I have large savings, but started doing my bathroom out and went over budget and then expanded to 5 other rooms in the house so have spend significantly more than I would have. But, I have done a lot of OT to cover for this.

I already have a CC and use it and pay it off every month, even if the money is in the bank (Santander 123 so get cashback) so it is there to use I just didn't want to put so much on. But you say don't rely on OT, so if I put it all on CC what happens next month, I may not get paid OT.. Isn't that relying on OT? I don't need OT to live, but I've spent my disposable income, knowing what is coming in etc.

I'll try one more polite call to payroll, if it doesn't work I will have to suck it up.
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Don't spend money until you have been paid , I think you're partially at fault here
 
JBuk said:
Don't spend money until you have been paid , I think you're partially at fault here
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Nonsense.

Having an overflow fund is wise generally, but "relying" on overtime payments for overtime you've already worked isn't unreasonable. Can't imagine many people work with an expectation of NOT being paid
 
cheesyboy said:
Nonsense.

Having an overflow fund is wise generally, but "relying" on overtime payments for overtime you've already worked isn't unreasonable. Can't imagine many people work with an expectation of NOT being paid
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Relying on overtime money isn't unreasonable but spending that money before you have actually been paid it is asking for trouble especially if your savings have been depleted
 
el_dazza said:
It's his fault someone else didn't submit something? Ok then.
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It's his fault he incurred costs on the assumption he'd be paid overtime on a specific date. There was no cast iron guarantee that would happen, therefore he is responsible for having taken that risk.

Not that it was unreasonable for him to do so. Most of us would. But the fact remains, we should have waited till we had the money.
 
JBuk said:
Don't spend money until you have been paid , I think you're partially at fault here
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cheesyboy said:
Nonsense.

Having an overflow fund is wise generally, but "relying" on overtime payments for overtime you've already worked isn't unreasonable. Can't imagine many people work with an expectation of NOT being paid
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el_dazza said:
It's his fault someone else didn't submit something? Ok then.
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Glad I wasn't the only one who disagreed with that comment.

Thompson_NCL said:
It's his fault he incurred costs on the assumption he'd be paid overtime on a specific date. There was no cast iron guarantee that would happen, therefore he is responsible for having taken that risk.

Not that it was unreasonable for him to do so. Most of us would. But the fact remains, we should have waited till we had the money.
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Where have I said that I spent money I don't have? I have work booked in, plans to buy X Y and Z this month from the extra money I was expecting. The issue is, I don't WANT to spend money I don't have and put it on the CC. But, not being paid OT for hours I have worked and submitted, is just like not being paid at all. There is about £900 post tax of overtime to be paid, some people don't even get that in a month from their flat wage, so I am not just talking about a £50 short month. That's why I am a bit miffed at the whole thing.
 
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koolpc said:
This has happened to me a couple of times in the past. It was annoying as hell but i just had to live with it.
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This, my manager is notoriously inept. Happily, he is on leave at the moment as I had to query where my September expenses were. The cover manager actually got off his backside and phoned the finance department. They've not received my claim form.
 
craig_t said:
Glad I wasn't the only one who disagreed with that comment.



Where have I said that I spent money I don't have? I have work booked in, plans to buy X Y and Z this month from the extra money I was expecting. The issue is, I don't WANT to spend money I don't have and put it on the CC. But, not being paid OT for hours I have worked and submitted, is just like not being paid at all. There is about £900 post tax of overtime to be paid, some people don't even get that in a month from their flat wage, so I am not just talking about a £50 short month. That's why I am a bit miffed at the whole thing.
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Ok , having re read your post I quoted I got the wrong impression you were spending the money first then relying on being paid it

In any case mistakes happen with wages, I would just get it sorted so it will be in next months pay
 
craig_t said:
Where have I said that I spent money I don't have? I have work booked in, plans to buy X Y and Z this month from the extra money I was expecting. The issue is, I don't WANT to spend money I don't have and put it on the CC. But, not being paid OT for hours I have worked and submitted, is just like not being paid at all. There is about £900 post tax of overtime to be paid, some people don't even get that in a month from their flat wage, so I am not just talking about a £50 short month. That's why I am a bit miffed at the whole thing.
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But plenty of things besides your manager not completing paperwork on time could have delayed the payment of your overtime/wages. It's unfortunate but it happens. I imagine your payroll department deal with this issue every month, depending on the size of the company.

Your OP reads as though this is first time this has happened to you.
 
MichaelAwkward said:
These things happen in every company. People miss cut-off dates for payroll etc.

It was a mistake to expect O/T payments. You shouldn't really be relying on them. Get a credit card and pay it off next month.
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Also I would suggest politely speaking to your boss and suggesting that a company policy be put in place to make sure that OT request's are signed off by someone else, when he's on holiday/leave etc.

That way you come across as being constructive by suggesting something is put in place to stop this happening again.
 
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