Is the E46 M3 CS Worth the Premium?

Thanks for all the replies.

olv: your CS looks stunning.

mrk: thanks for the info. There's absolutely no way I would make any adjustments to the appearance, I'm really not interested in having anything other than the stock look. They got it just right, in my opinion. My E36 is also unmolested, down to the orange repeaters.

I think I'm sold on the CS. Yes, it's a greater outlay, but there are too many positives for me to ignore. I can't say I'm too bothered about the loss of cruise control; I'm lucky in that I only do around 3,000 miles a year. On a less CS-specific note, this means that the SMG is more of a curiosity than a necessity, too; with a ten-minute commute over country roads, I don't spend a lot of time in traffic.
 
I have a manual CS. I had a standard E46 about 5 years ago and it was a cracking car but the steering rack in the CS is noticeably faster. Apart from that, there isn't much else different about it, bar the CSL wheels. The brakes even though uprated to CSL brakes are crap so I upgraded to BMW Performance (Brembo) 6 pot calipers.
I bought mine in May for £13750 and have spent a lot of money on it, but from looking at the classifieds and lack of manual CS's I reckon I would get my money back plus what I've put into if it I put it on the market. I've done less than 1000 on it since I bought it, so it makes driving it a bit more special rather than using it as a daily.
 
mrk you must be one of the few who love the sound of the S54, from the inside of a coupe it sounded a bit... odd to me. Sure, when giving it full beans it sounded great but driving normally sounded strange and wasn't the best of sounds, too raspy for me. I've mentioned this to a few other people and they felt the same.

Which year? Mine has no rasp driving normally in everyday situations - It sounds like a BMW straight 6 humming along when just cruising about at normal speeds (example). The rasp comes in north of 3000rpm and only when you climb the revs from there fairly quickly. Like I mentioned in a reply in another thread, it can be as ambient or as needlessly asbo if you want it to be whenever just by modulating the throttle.

Thanks for all the replies.

olv: your CS looks stunning.

mrk: thanks for the info. There's absolutely no way I would make any adjustments to the appearance, I'm really not interested in having anything other than the stock look. They got it just right, in my opinion. My E36 is also unmolested, down to the orange repeaters.

I think I'm sold on the CS. Yes, it's a greater outlay, but there are too many positives for me to ignore. I can't say I'm too bothered about the loss of cruise control; I'm lucky in that I only do around 3,000 miles a year. On a less CS-specific note, this means that the SMG is more of a curiosity than a necessity, too; with a ten-minute commute over country roads, I don't spend a lot of time in traffic.

Seems sensible! The CS and CSL are investments now, while the normal one may as well be for the long haul. i don't intend to sell my car ever. It will be nice to have it in the same condition it is in today, in several years time. I'm confident that there will be even fewer nice examples out there than there already are, and this will make it feel a bit more special yet.

I don't drive mine daily, the odd times I won't have driven it for a week straight. But I do try to drive it a few times a week at least. The accumulated mileage so far has been due to various things going on this year requiring me to travel, otherwise annual mileage is ~4000.
On the plus side, it's meant I've been able to get to know the car much better than I otherwise would have in lots of different conditions. On the negative side... Added above average annual mileage to it in the first year :o

[TW]Fox;28850044 said:
Really?

The sole reason?

Well obviously not taken at face value but ultimately yes surely? Do you honestly think the E46 M3 would have been as much a hit if it didn't have the S54 in the configuration it is in? The Z4M has it too, but the engine<>exhaust configuration is somewhat different, the organic sound and metallic rasp isn't there, two of the most popular talking points for it both online and offline. It won International Engine of the Year at launch in 2001 in the M3, and then continued to win it for the 3.0 litre to 4.0 litre category for every year it was still in production.

So yeah, I do genuinely think the S54B32 is what makes the E46 M3 what it is, and it doesn't seem like I am alone either.
 
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Well obviously not taken at face value but ultimately yes surely? Do you honestly think the E46 M3 would have been as much a hit if it didn't have the S54 in the configuration it is in?

The E46 M3 was about far more than simply an engine. You are selling it very short if you insist the only reason its 'revered' is because of its engine. A cynic might suggest it's because you drive a convertible which doesn't quite have the razor sharp dynamics for which the E46 M3 was also revered ;)

It won International Engine of the Year at launch in 2001 in the M3,

So did the N54 in the 335i, not sure what that has to do with anything. Infact the N54 got that twice in a row. And the 1 litre Ecoboost in the Fiesta managed to upstage both with 3 years in a row...

and then continued to win it for the 3.0 litre to 4.0 litre category for every year it was still in production.

As did the N54.

That E93 335i seems to fit all the boxes you think makes a car great, I mean, Engine of the Year says it's twice as good as an S54 :D
 
But the N54 isn't comparable, it isn't pure :eek:

We all know how much you love that engine (the car itself, another matter) - I and many others just love the S54 a lot more :D
 
More diverted, than avoided. Otherwise it would just drag on and become insufferable :p
 
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Convertibles should always be a 2 seater roadster. They are wrong in any other form.

A proper M3 will always be a coupe IMO.
Z4 if you want the wind through your hair.

This was my line of thinking. However the Z4M's wheelbase makes it a very different kind of car.
 
This was my line of thinking. However the Z4M's wheelbase makes it a very different kind of car.

M3 Coupe = Precision Instrument
Z4 Roadster = Sports Car
M3 Cabriolet = Looking good in the gym carpark, telling people you have an 'Em Free Vert' in the pub

Right? :D
 
[TW]Fox;28851510 said:
M3 Coupe = Precision Instrument
Z4 Roadster = Sports Car
M3 Cabriolet = Looking good in the gym carpark, telling people you have an 'Em Free Vert' in the pub

Right? :D

All 3 are genuinely sporty, some just less so than others.
 
There must be a wasp in my room.

:p

The one I drove is yellow but when I was looking to buy blue was preferable. Think it's called Mystic? Is Topaz lighter?
 
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Love my 3.0 Z4, Roof up or down, sounds fantastic and handling is fantastic I've found.

But I think the whole point of this is, he wants a car that's not going to depreciate, even appreciate, Something The 335i is never going to do despite it being a fantastic car.
 
he wants a car that's not going to depreciate

Don't we all.

One day the M3 bubble will pop as everyone realises there are thousands of them out there. Just like the E36.

There are over 15,000 E46 M3's still registered on UK roads. This is a huge amount - there are more of them than there are BMW 530d M Sport's to give you an idea!
 
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