Oh dear, you poor lamb.
Lord's Prayer cinema ad snub 'bewilders' Church of England
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Oh dear, you poor lamb.
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Is there any reasons to NOT refuse the advert, because it seems like there is a ton of reasons for refusal.
Freedom of speech thing doesn't come into it at all. It isn't a public notice board, its the business has the choice in what to advertise (obviously within guidelines). They could even refuse the advert on the reasoning that it didn't contain enough bass to please the younger generation.
Freedom of speech thing doesn't come into it at all. It isn't a public notice board, its the business has the choice in what to advertise (obviously within guidelines). They could even refuse the advert on the reasoning that it didn't contain enough bass to please the younger generation.
It's certainly not offensive and I have no objection to it being shown.
Maybe they should also ban any Christmas adverts as Christmas is a Christian Festival celebrating the birth of Christ. But wait, that delivers the business from lack of advertising revenue so can't offend.
Christmas is technically a Christian brand name, but that's about it. A midwinter festival is a common tradition in many cultures. Various religions have tried, with varying degrees of success, to increase their power by rebadging the midwinter festival for their religion.
Maybe we should ban the word "Christmas" in any context other than the very specific religious ritual that it refers to - a mass on the 25th of December (or late on the 24th, depending on how things are interpreted).
Muslims and Islam aren't the same, one is the doctrine, which is evil, one is a group of people who can choose or not to be selective in the doctrine.
Businesses don't like controversy because it exudes part of their customers. By not allowing political or religious ads they stay neutral. If you ran a Labour ad, Conservatives would stop coming, and vice versa.
Ahh I see this thread is finally reaching the level of stupidity and ignorance as all the other religious threads.
I still don't get how running an advert advocating prayer is "ramming religion down my throat". I will assume as always that these sorts of expressions are the usual fearmongering to help validate a persons own insecurities. If you are so insecure in your own personal beliefs/values/thoughts/whatever that an advert about religion offends you or makes you physically angry then you have bigger problems than cinema advertisements...
Lolreligion!
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I still don't get how running an advert advocating prayer is "ramming religion down my throat". I will assume as always that these sorts of expressions are the usual fearmongering to help validate a persons own insecurities. If you are so insecure in your own personal beliefs/values/thoughts/whatever that an advert about religion offends you or makes you physically angry then you have bigger problems than cinema advertisements...
Lolreligion!
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Deservedly blocked. Make the exception for one religion and suddenly they all want to go and politicians too. Before you know it, pre film adverts are all competing religious propaganda and party political broadcasts. Nooooooooooooooo thank you, product adverts are irritating enough as it is.
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I've been an atheist for nearly 40 years so it doesn't bother me in the slightest.
I've never been in a situation where somebody has tried to ram religion down my throat and I'll quite gladly talk to Jehova's and Mormons when they knock on the door.
Going by this thread some posters would have a mental breakdown if confronted by the above.
I've never been in a situation where somebody has tried to ram religion down my throat and I'll quite gladly talk to Jehova's and Mormons when they knock on the door.
Going by this thread some posters would have a mental breakdown if confronted by the above.
Aye I'm well aware of why businesses would want to steer clear.
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It's about choice. I choose to have nothing at all to do with organised religion as I consider it a cancer on humanity.
A cinema that showed a religious advert before the main feature would remove my choice to avoid such nonsense.
You still have choice. This is not like a Clockwork Orange... you are not forced to watch.
You can chose to ignore it, leave, close your eyes, burst into tears, rant at the screen, urinate in your popcorn in protest. You have loads of choices.
I actually agree with banning religious and political advertisements in cinemas. If you allow one then you open the floodgates to all sorts of possible abuse of the system.
What amuses me is why some people are having a mental breakdown about what it probably a fairly innocuous advertisement because "I am being force fed religious rubbish and they are trying to convert me" which is patently not true...
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If you think people posting that they want to avoid being forced to watch a religious advert is having a "mental breakdown", I do hope that you never get to witness someone actually having a mental breakdown as it's rather unsettling.
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It's certainly not offensive and I have no objection to it being shown.
Maybe they should also ban any Christmas adverts as Christmas is a Christian Festival celebrating the birth of Christ. But wait, that delivers the business from lack of advertising revenue so can't offend.
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normal people wouldn't be offended by it, they just ignore it. I don't care what religion people follow, I don't have to listen to their views about it in the same way I wouldn't expect anyone to have to listen to my views about why religion is pathetic.
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Agree with the ban, including anything related to religion. While I wouldn't really be bothered by it (esp as I don't even go to the cinema, lol) I disagree with it in principle. Also opens a can of worms - what if another religion/cult like Islam or Scientology then takes out ads too, and are possibly refused on any grounds- spark a whole debate on equality of cults that's not worth having.
Ideally it wouldn't even be a debate, the ad would go ahead, everyone would laugh at it and forget it in minutes. But we're far from that level
Ideally it wouldn't even be a debate, the ad would go ahead, everyone would laugh at it and forget it in minutes. But we're far from that level
Given the price we pay these days to see a movie at the cinema, there shouldn't be advertising of any description, except maybe the concessions kiosk and of course the previews. Nothing puts me off going more than having to sit through 40 minutes of tripe, before the film starts (well apart from the mobile checkers and chatterers).
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What I find funny is that the advert was going to be shown before a film that has a lot of made up religious connotations but we'll all sit through that without batting an eyelid.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophy_and_religion_in_Star_Wars
You mean there's another kind?
I think the difference is that people who go to see Star Wars will have chosen to go and see Star Wars, not to be preached at. If they wanted that, then there are plenty of churches around (which cost a lot less than £12)
Ah but you see it's not pushing any thing. In every country and every culture where you find religion, most often there is a common or a dominant one. And like many years in western societies, Christianity has been at the forefront - thus many practices, traditions and such are a way of life. A perfect example being the Lord's prayer. You don't have to believe, or follow, or observe, yet at the same time you understand why they exist, it's not an alien concept and you realize you can opt in or opt out.
What you don't do -as a good natured person whom respects the views of others- is make a stink about it, simply because... "The agency that handles adverts for the cinemas said it could offend those of "differing faiths and no faith".
Remember what I said about each nation or culture having a primary religion? Well 'differing faiths and no faith' are in the minority, so they can co quietly **** themselves, like good natured people should do. You don't like what you see, turn away, cover your ears...
Instead, we've reached a point where now we grovel under some white western guilt complex and allow everyone else, no matter how insignificant to act as a full member with full privileges and rights to a club, that they've never actually earned their membership to, nor do they contribute with the same level of desire and passion to achieve progress. They come to exploit not to embrace.
Please remember to fully star out all swearing in future. Thank you.
Enough time passes and silly things like whether or not a religious advert before a movie, becomes an actual issue of contention. Who would have thought?
So a message that talks about the benefits of the church, is a perfectly fine message with me whether it's at the movies, on the back of a city bus or a commercial.
I'd rather see that then a bunch of previews about crap films where you get most of the film in the forty second trailer.
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It's obvious they should be able to show what they want, but if you are passionately in camp "how dare they block the advert" or "how dare they think they should be entitled to advertise that advert and force their views upon me", you need to calm down / get a grip.
I found cinemas a sufficiently irritating experience the last few times I went that I haven't been in years. So no, I don't care about the lord's prayer advert. Instead, a decent home project and sound system, and buying a DVD or Bluray, does the job for me.