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Lobby your Mp to stand against wasting tax money bombing Syria
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^THIS
Rubbish kind off.
If countries don't come to gether and bomb them, they will expand their territory, wealth, weapons and training, they will inflict more damage over there and over here.
They absolute need to be constantly narrated to keep them from massive expansion.
Corbyn should be done for treason, his only reason for not supporting it, is int'l increase uk risk, which is letting terrorism win and is exactly what they want, no one with such opinions should be ever let near parliament, either have a decent reason for not supporting, but not that one.
I dunno, perhaps the countries in the vicinity actually doing more, refugees going to nearby wealthy states rather than travelling thousands of miles to the west, only to bitch about how different it is?
I just don't know why the west falls for this garbage every time, we interfere - we're the bad guys according to those we're trying to help, we don't interfere - we're the bad guys according to the gun happy people in our own country.
I'm all for defending ourselves, inciting others to hate us even more won't do that, muslims have been butchering each other for centuries, way before the west got involved, however when we do it's us that become the target.
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Yes lets jump on the bandwagon, let Cameron join the big boys club and drop faceless bombs onto faceless civilians so the jihadi's can say "look they're killiing our brothers again! Best recruiting propaganda ever!!!"
Is this thought through? No. Do we have an exit strategy? No. Do we have any plan for the future? No. Its Camerons' Tony Blair moment. But hey, he doesn't have to worry he'll be retiring in a couple of years so let some other schmuck deal with the consequences down the line.
Our politicians never learn. Ever.
Is this thought through? No. Do we have an exit strategy? No. Do we have any plan for the future? No. Its Camerons' Tony Blair moment. But hey, he doesn't have to worry he'll be retiring in a couple of years so let some other schmuck deal with the consequences down the line.
Our politicians never learn. Ever.
They're only expanding as the nearby countries are doing the bare minimum to stop it and relying on the west to wipe their **** as usual.
You can bet when we do interfere we end up with our troops on the ground, not the arab states.
There is no long term strategy, yet again.
The situation has CHANGED since the last vote.
ISIS (and Assad) are managing to do that perfectly well on their own... not like intervention is going to change that.
Seems to be a bit of a random comment drawing parallels with a situation without direct parallels.
Very bad misunderstanding of what this country has done - look at what David Cameron has tried to do in Lebanon for instance - a much more humane approach if he'd had the support for it from other EU leaders instead of their "open the floodgates" approach.
While I agree bombing isn't the solution... there is no more a political solution either... without a military escalation it will just allow ISIS to expand unchecked (understand the implications of a caliphate - they do not recognise borders, political negotiations are an alien/forbidden concept to the version of Islam they are following/implementing - except in some extreme and temporary circumstances).
No I quite agree. However on the other hand we will inevitably be stoking the fire of both them over there potentially increasing their ranks from the civilian deaths. Then we also run the risk of giving more motivation to the plebs that already reside on our soil.
That's the reason I believe it's a no win game. On one hand we could beat them on the other we increase their resolve/numbers unfortunately I believe whatever reaction will fall in the middle.
They won't respond to negotiation (not that I imagine many will even consider pacifying them in such a way) thus it's left to conflict to stop their spread but then the above point comes into play.
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Don't be silly, there isn't a counter argument. This is just about opposing the Tories on something, and nothing to do with Syria.
Think you over estimate the local people support for them, who despise them as they kill thousands off team.
If we wanted to we could severely limit their finances. And thankfully this seems to be the way the world is going after than Paris attacks, a coordinated many nation targeted bombing campaign.
The turkey dilemma could vastly help with cooperation an coordination with countries working together.
If we wanted to we could severely limit their finances. And thankfully this seems to be the way the world is going after than Paris attacks, a coordinated many nation targeted bombing campaign.
The turkey dilemma could vastly help with cooperation an coordination with countries working together.
I don't think many of the locals support them by any means but if I were in such a situation and one of my loved ones was killed I imagine I'd see them as a way of revenge against those who've damaged my country and killed my loved one/s.
Personally I think the best option would be to cripple them financially which Russia has started on. I imagine the fuel prices will go up over here as a result.
I don't think you would think like that. As you would probably know multiple people beheaded or otherwise killed by them. There recruitment is massively overrated.
And to cut their finances means bombings, which everyone needs to play a roll in.
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