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Upgrade from 6970 for Fallout 4 @ 4K

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Hi all

I'm currently still running a Q6600 system with a 6970, basically because nothing has really grabbed me gaming wise since the days of Fallout 3 and Just Cause 2.

However I've recently upgraded my monitor to the Philips BDM4065UC 4k 40" screen, mainly for desktop and media use I hasten to add, and I've bought Fallout 4, which I'm enjoying enough to finally want to upgrade.

My system plays it ok at the non-native 1080p with medium/low settings, no AA, but I'm looking to be able to play around 40-60fps on medium settings at 4K, upgrading again once next year's super-duper 4K-friendly GPUs emerge.

What GPU will I need for this please? I expect the other main components will be 4690k / 4690k, as I already have 16GB of DDR3 that I'd like to reuse.

Thank you.
 
2x980s over clocked are enough for me to sustain 100fps or so in fo4, but this leads to physics bugs so I cap to 58fps.

4k is twice as many pixels as 1440p, so I'd expect to be able to hit about 50fps at 4k.

I'd say you want one heavily over clocked 980ti,or maybe 2 of them.

4k is a system killer.
 
rtho782 said:
2x980s over clocked are enough for me to sustain 100fps or so in fo4, but this leads to physics bugs so I cap to 58fps.

4k is twice as many pixels as 1440p, so I'd expect to be able to hit about 50fps at 4k.

I'd say you want one heavily over clocked 980ti,or maybe 2 of them.

4k is a system killer.
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Thats nice and all, but stating your using SLI on fallout 4 is a bit of a porky. There is still no FO4 offical profile out yet so a lot of areas will perform worse in SLI than a single card.

Having said that the 980ti would be my single card choice for 4k.
 
If you want to game at 4k playing the latest games then you are looking at a minimum of a 980ti/titan x or fury x and more importantly a gsync or freesync monitor.
 
I've played Fallout 4 with my 980Ti on a mix of high and ultra with DSR to 4K (from 1440P) and got pretty good FPS, mostly in the 50 FPS range, with dips in the cities to low 40's.
The drops were annoying so I've gone back to 1440P, however if you're happy with medium settings then you might get away with a 980 or 390X.
Depends how sensitive you are to frame rate drops, maybe you could try capping the frame rate to 30 for a consistent experience.

EDIT: Forgot to add that my 980Ti was at 1454Mhz core and stock memory, so a moderate overclock I would say.
 
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I have a Fury X and I have the game on ultra apart from Godrays, which I have on low.

I get mainly 40s and 50s, with the odd dip into the 20s. However, it's smooth and Fallout 4 doesn't need to be played at 10,000 FPS.

I've played 45 hours so far and it's not bothered me yet. The beta patch has improved things no end on my rig and I am not running Crimson, just the last of the CCC betas.

A friend of mine has a Fury non X at 4k and he has sacrificed very little to get the same sort of performance as me.

Edit, forgot to say. At 4k CPU use is very little. I had a 3970x hex core @ 4.7ghz and when the board it was in went bang I had to use a 8 core 2ghz Xeon. In GTAV I lost no performance whatsoever.

If you are careful with your cash then I would consider an AMD 8320e with a decent board, decent cooler and a Fury. I really wouldn't pump loads of money into a CPU because it's the last thing that matters @ 4k.
 
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Thanks all. Really appreciate the advice.

I suppose my concern is that I complete FO4 and then don't touch another game for three years, having spooged £500 on a GPU that will be worth about £100 this time next year :p. But I guess that's a decision only I can make :).
 
Participant said:
Thanks all. Really appreciate the advice.

I suppose my concern is that I complete FO4 and then don't touch another game for three years, having spooged £500 on a GPU that will be worth about £100 this time next year :p. But I guess that's a decision only I can make :).
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No worries chap.

I wouldn't feel too bad about it tbh. I spent £450 on a Fury X and god knows what else (new keyboard, new mouse, new Xbone controller) just to play Fallout 4. It's worth it tbh.

I've done 45 hours so far and have barely scratched the surface :S

I've also seen 1080p and compared to 4k it's crazy. My mate needed to know how to get out of a building so I watched his game over Steam Streaming and 1080p really does look awful. I can see why so many people are complaining about the graphics, but at 4k it really doesn't look that bad.

Luckily as I said in my previous post CPU performance really isn't all that bad for 4k. So many people don't understand just how much of a hit you take graphically at 4k. It's honestly absolutely bonkers.
 
Participant said:
Thanks all. Really appreciate the advice.

I suppose my concern is that I complete FO4 and then don't touch another game for three years, having spooged £500 on a GPU that will be worth about £100 this time next year :p. But I guess that's a decision only I can make :).
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You're in the wrong game m8, I can literally *watch* the pounds roll out of my PC as I look at it :D

Wouldn't change it though :D

Maybe get a console instead? :p
 
Participant said:
Thanks all. Really appreciate the advice.

I suppose my concern is that I complete FO4 and then don't touch another game for three years, having spooged £500 on a GPU that will be worth about £100 this time next year :p. But I guess that's a decision only I can make :).
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If I were you I'd try and get a second hand 980 or 390X and overclock it as much as you can (within reason).

You'll have to lower settings, but should still give you acceptable performance atleast until the new GPU's arrive.
 
a lot of us end up paying for a new system/upgrade for a new game coming out, i remember doing it for HL2, Crysis and GTA 5. If you dont think you would be regularly playing games after your done with FO4, it might not be a good idea to spend £1k making ya pc 4k ready. Maybe just bang a 290/970 in and turn up the details and put some AA on to smooth things out.
 
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Participant said:
Thanks all. Really appreciate the advice.

I suppose my concern is that I complete FO4 and then don't touch another game for three years, having spooged £500 on a GPU that will be worth about £100 this time next year :p. But I guess that's a decision only I can make :).
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Of course the 980TI will do the job for you but it is quite an outlay for just one game at Medium settings, even at 4K. You could try and see if you can get away with a used 290X or even a 980 at most for about £300 used.
 
I have dual Titan X's and a 4k screen, yet I play Fallout 4 on my 1440p monitor because there isn't an SLI profile and 4k can't sustain anywhere near 60fps at all times...

Unless you have G-sync, don't bother.
 
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Do we even know if the Ti will work with a Q6600 system?? Thats's one old system now...
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Fair question, but I'm not sure why it wouldn't since the PCI and power connectors are all still the same. I'll probably end up placing one big order for CPU+Mobo+GPU anyway, so it'll probably take it out the equation.

VincentHanna said:
Unless you have G-sync, don't bother.
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Is this true of everyone or just enthusiasts, of which I'm definitely not one? People played games at 40-60fps for a long time before G-SYNC came along. And I've just bought a £500 non-G-SYNC monitor, so that's out of the question anyway.

Happy to reduce the settings to a point where it's playable, pending new hardware.
 
G/freesync is very useful at 4k because the dips can sometimes be less that 27 FPS. You will still notice the slowdown but it helps..

That said I am not running either because I have a Gsync screen and an AMD GPU and Vsync has been fine in Fallout 4.

Back when Fallout 3 came out I originally had a 9800 GT so playing at 1080p on ultra caused some lag at times. It was the same sort of story when I went 5770 CFX but it didn't bother me.

Fallout 4 doesn't even really like being ran at over 60hz any way, with many reporting problems.
 
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