Make your point clearly.
ISIL, ISIS, Daesh discussion thread.
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Make your point clearly.
Heh, reminds me of those people who only post "this thread is full of idiots" and then leave
Quite often comments like that can apply equally to everyone involved in a particularly stupid argument
The MSM are all pushing an agenda however brazen, however insidious. They are and have failed at truthful reporting as have virtually all press.
I would say that the biggest threat to Islamic/Islamist ideology is education their second class citizens who are decreed as property
I'm not sure it is - there are far fewer poor people in the world than people tend to imagine, plenty of people in Islamic countries have quite reasonable standards of living - Islamism is still a problem among people from moderate families not living in poverty both in Islamic countries and in the west
poverty and lack of education are often touted as a reason, especially by people who want to say completely disassociate their religion, community - tis much easier just claim that terrorists were massively ignorant and simply don't understand their religion or to pretend they're simply isolated backwards people who don't understand than to face up to reality
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Waiting to make a point?
I would welcome you making any point at all
Several points were made, but I'm sure you missed them through this pig headed attitude demonstrated again in the last comment. You seem reluctant to think out with what you read in the newspapers or see/hear on the news which is fair enough, just don't attempt to belittle or disregard those who disagree with you. It puts you in a position where you seem less intelligent.
Going back to the original point, the RAF and the BBC are a biased source of information. Take from that want you want. I'm done with this silly, increasingly defensive right wing thread.
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Education would help great deal in reducing extremism especially in the middle east, Africa and Asia, however the political situation also needs to change. Because you have well of educated people becoming terrorists too.
This reactionary ideology they follow has at it's heart political grievances which is the main reason how they get recruits.
do believe everything you see in the news and on the internet or something?
Like those north korea stories of people being executed all the time.. there is no proof other than someone lost their job but oh kim jong-un must have executed them with nukes or something, it makes a good story and the western world are gullible enough to believe anything
I think Saudi and the other Arab states will be rather direct in their response on this.
If Turkey attempts to annex those states it's akin to Iraq annexing Kuwait. It's likely to get a response like that too.
The abuse of human rights in North Korea is well documented. The 2014 United Nations report is a good starting point.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/bsp/hi/pdfs/17_02_14_nkorea_unreport.pdf
Are you really suggesting this is all some kind of ruse?
Very good statement.
I think one thing that people forget is that the leaders (both political and religious) are also engaged in politics in multiple levels with different external entities - for trade.
The choices often are based on the need to propel their country forward that they are politically manipulated - i.e. if you want this then you will need to provide access to gas etc which is seperate. That short term gains to deliver only results in saving face to the voters and loss of sovereign assets.
Several points were made, but I'm sure you missed them through this pig headed attitude demonstrated again in the last comment. You seem reluctant to think out with what you read in the newspapers or see/hear on the news which is fair enough, just don't attempt to belittle or disregard those who disagree with you. It puts you in a position where you seem less intelligent.
Going back to the original point, the RAF and the BBC are a biased source of information. Take from that want you want. I'm done with this silly, increasingly defensive right wing thread.
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If my frustrations showed its because I was asking you the same thing over and over and getting no response from you in relation to the point at hand.
Am I bein accused of bein right wing here? I was accused of being left wing last week
Basically I wanted you to outline exactly why you believed the information from the RAF in the ME, the ministry of defence in London and the BBC in both was wrong. If you don't have any form of information that led you there, that's ok, it's just that I can discount it as your own personal bias. That's not a bad thing, so long as you're open about it.
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Radicals always have the limelight in pushing their agenda......
Digital Media boredom I suspect.
Grouped based organisations - religious or not - share many of the same traits.
so that report includes the assinations of key members by AA guns and stuff?
pretty sure not.
I know there is evil in the country but some things in the papers are ridiculous propaganda rubbish.
It's not like NK is gonna sue the tabloids is it
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I tell you what I don't believe - any reports from Russia Today about the Syrian crisis. It was largely RT that perpetrated the myth that the Free Syrian Army were a bunch of extremists - remember all that "proof" that it was the FSA who used chemical weapons? It's RT that is pushing the Assad-is-a-good-guy agenda today.
Well there's evidence of that too if you actually looked. It's curious you're willing to accept the arbitrary detentions and executions of its citizens yet elaborate executions of high-ranking officials is beneath them