Any police officers here?

Basic jist is, we and another couple went for the same house. House is within catchment for a very good school, other couple offered a financial incentive. That incentive was far and above what one would assume a person trying to buy that house would have to spend.

We offered just under house price, they offered 2% over + £10k on top.

That's in no way similar to what you're asking in the OP, people are free to buy what they like and offer what they feel it's worth if they felt getting their child into the school was worth that extra money then that's up to them but they live in the catchment area so there's no fraud being committed.
 
Oh, so someone's paid more than you for a house you were looking at.

So, where do the police fit in then?

Its not just "they offered more", its they offered above (Words from the estate agent) the asking price and the £10k on top was "very unusual" (Again words from the estate agent)

So we are not sure if its catchment wars for the school or just someone who is super desperate for a house in the area.
 
The OP missed out on buying a house in said catchment area, so I think the OP is trying to find out what legal problems can come his way if he lies about his location.
 
Its not just "they offered more", its they offered above (Words from the estate agent) the asking price and the £10k on top was "very unusual" (Again words from the estate agent)

So we are not sure if its catchment wars for the school or just someone who is super desperate for a house in the area.


Either way it's not fraud.
 
Its not just "they offered more", its they offered above (Words from the estate agent) the asking price and the £10k on top was "very unusual" (Again words from the estate agent)

So we are not sure if its catchment wars for the school or just someone who is super desperate for a house in the area.

But surely this isn't an issue? They've offered an inflated sum of money for a house in the catchment area for the school they want their kid to attend. Unless you're suggesting that they have lied about living in the area and then bought the house to cover up the lie, then again that's a pretty big leap.
 
Either way it's not fraud.

I'm not implying what they are doing is fraud, i'm trying to round up my assumption. I'm assuming they over bidded us to get within catchment and based upon the price of the house, location and the amount they offered, it feels very much like they are using the house as a proxy to get within catchment.

So i wanted to know how common it is, if at all, to round up my assumption. If it is common (the arrests), then they just offered move to live there and i'll move on, if the arrests are not common, its more likely we are victim of it and i just need to change the way i deal with this situation.

Or the agent is lying to you to get you to up your offer and increase their cut?

Could more then likely be that, but from chats with her, i don't feel thats the case.
 
But surely this isn't an issue? They've offered an inflated sum of money for a house in the catchment area for the school they want their kid to attend. Unless you're suggesting that they have lied about living in the area and then bought the house to cover up the lie, then again that's a pretty big leap.

That is what i'm assuming, which is why i asked the OP, to see if my assumption is based on reality and not fantasy.
 
So you've lost out on the house you wanted and the information you really wanted was what the chances were of you being prosecuted for committing fraud. It is becoming clearer now.

I've no idea what the chances of this are, but prepared to be judged by GD, alongside a healthy dose of anger at BTL investors reducing housing supplies etc.
 
I'm not implying what they are doing is fraud, i'm trying to round up my assumption. I'm assuming they over bidded us to get within catchment and based upon the price of the house, location and the amount they offered, it feels very much like they are using the house as a proxy to get within catchment.

So i wanted to know how common it is, if at all, to round up my assumption. If it is common (the arrests), then they just offered move to live there and i'll move on, if the arrests are not common, its more likely we are victim of it and i just need to change the way i deal with this situation.



Could more then likely be that, but from chats with her, i don't feel thats the case.

The only thing you're a victim of is offering less than somebody else for a house. This is not an offence.
 
I'm not implying what they are doing is fraud, i'm trying to round up my assumption. I'm assuming they over bidded us to get within catchment and based upon the price of the house, location and the amount they offered, it feels very much like they are using the house as a proxy to get within catchment.

So i wanted to know how common it is, if at all, to round up my assumption. If it is common (the arrests), then they just offered move to live there and i'll move on, if the arrests are not common, its more likely we are victim of it and i just need to change the way i deal with this situation.

I don't understand what you're getting at to be honest, yes it very much sounds like they offered to extra money to secure the house to get into that catchment area from what you say but if they've bought it and will be living in it then I see no issue.

You're not the victim of anything other than someone having the extra cash to secure a house within an area they wanted for whatever reason, suck it up and move on.
 
The only thing you're a victim of is offering less than somebody else for a house. This is not an offence.

I don't think your grasping the situation. The house is within catchment of a very good school (Top 200 in the UK), the house was located, priced and sized aimed at the lower end of the market (Where buyers have less money and/or are first time buyers), they offered over the asking price and 10k more which the estate agent said was very unusual.
 
I don't think your grasping the situation. The house is within catchment of a very good school (Top 200 in the UK), the house was located, priced and sized aimed at the lower end of the market (Where buyers have less money and/or are first time buyers), they offered over the asking price and 10k more which the estate agent said was very unusual.

No he seems to be grasping it perfectly, they really wanted the house for whatever reason so they offered a sum they knew would secure it without doubt.

It doesn't matter why they really wanted the house, there's nothing that could have any comeback going on here.
 
but if they've bought it and will be living in it then I see no issue.

Thats what i'm asking essentially. What they did was above and beyond what you'd expect for a house of that type. So it feels like they bought the house just to get in catchment and not live there.

I asked the OP to find out if what i'm suspecting (They bought the house to get within catchment and not live there) is common place or not. If i'm told they arrest some people for it, i'll just take it on the chin and move on, if they say arrests are low, i can say my assumption is based on reality to some degree and change my dealing with the situation.
 
What are you suggesting they would be arrested for? If they buy a house to get into a particular catchment area they have not done anything wrong so long as they actually live in the house. If they continued to live elsewhere that would be a difficult matter but, in any case, I am not aware of any successful prosecutions under the Fraud Act for address misrepresentation during the school application procedure. I seem to recall something about a test case in London a number of years back but that was dropped due to doubts over whether the matter was actually relevant to the provisions of the Fraud Act.
 
Its more a council matter than police matter, the council will withdraw the place immediately if caught lying even if the kid is already attending the school.

The claim of arrest is what i was asking for police officers opinions. I assumed (Wrongly maybe) that they would be the ones knocking on the door and taking them away.
 
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